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Lord take this cup away from me....
"I can't son, it belongs to you"
But Lord this cup is too much for me to bear!
"You can handle it, Jesus drank from the cup"
But Lord I aint Jesus!
"But He lives in YOU!"
But Lord I am weak!
"His strength works best when you’re weak"
But Lord have you seen what's in my cup?
"Yeah I know I put it in there!"
But Lord there is sickness in my cup!
"And I called you to heal"
But Lord there is confusion in my cup!
"And I called you to teach"
But Lord there is pain in my cup!
"And I called you spread my Word"
But Lord why do I have to drink THIS cup?
”Because I want you to act like my Son!”
Last question Lord....Does everyone have to drink this cup?
"Everyone has to taste their reality"
I would imagine it is way too presumptuous of me to expect a response but I invite you to a discussion and hope for it all the same:
Well I guess that's true... and not true at the same time. People have an ability to make compartments in their heads which is quite astonishing. I remember watching a documentary series broad-casted by the BBC entitled "Brain Story" and hosted by Susan Greenfield.
In that documentary, Scientists were showing how they could trick the brain into believing another person was present in the same room as the one whose brain was tricked. They were explaining how this could explain how some people believed they were in presence of another higher being of some sort. The "Jesus told it to me", " I felt God" and whatever other bs.
But what really astonished me was when I went to look for the book by Susan Greenfield who's a renown neuroscientist... I discovered she had written a book about Christians! So being a specialist in the study of the brain, while knowing the brain could be tricked, while knowing that obviously we're not here because of two idiots eating an apple, she is still Christian...
I'm always really puzzled by that... While I understand you can remain deist, I don't understand why people want to stick to one particular dogma knowing fully well that their dogma is no more valid than any other.
Hie! Just to say that I've read some of your posts on the Atheism thread and I found your answers well articulated Although I wonder how you can manage to repeat endlessly the same speech. I mean by that, that when looking at ALL the contradictions the Bible or any other religious texts contains, not counting the scientific bs, I'm sill in awe with people's capacity to STILL believe in the rest.
Not considering the morality of these "sacred" texts which are just plain disgusting.
However, since you seem to have "extra energy" to debate with believers, if you're interested, you can take a look at Bart. D Ehrman's book. He's a former Evangelist who along the course of his evangelical studies learned Hebrew. He's also a teacher in religion and its history. He's written books about the contradictions in the Bible. He considers himself an agnostic and is not particularly anti-theist which is probably why he's far less famous then say Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris or Denett.
Unfortunately, there's no such equivalent in the Muslim faith. I'm a former Muslim but all the books available that tries to analyze the Koran or the life of the prophet Muhammed are either, written by believers completely biased and non critical, or written by Christians to prove that Christianity is better than Islam (Most famous of all is Robert Spencer's "Prophet of Doom"). I've only found one by Ali Dashti published after his death.
Maybe liberalism is destined to remain as the "better" option but but too weak to win over the power drive. Paganism, liberalism, idealism, love for life, justice or equalitarian dreams seem to be uncapable to set the rules of the game. Thanks for your comment.
Sounds interesting although I am far from the subject. I am now reading an ample historic novel called Noticias del Imperio by Fernando Del Paso. A well informed novel about the failed french (Napoleon III) intentions of imposing in Mexico a Monarchy ruled by Maximiliano of Habsburg in 1864. Does Paganism and Political Power share something of the same nature?
Hi Charleton, I really loved reading Carlos Castaneda a few years ago in spanish. His first four books were particularly important as they led to an intense life experience while knowing Cuba during the early 80¨s. I am mexican so it all sounded in a way, close not to say familiar because Juan´s teachings coul be all but familiar and that is precise their value. ¿Have you read some thing similar?
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