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  Why is killing humans illegal, yet we kill other animals?

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  Su inspired this one. What do you think?

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  AJ 

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  Killing humans is not illegal. The death penalty obviously exists.

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    Juliana C 

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    Very good point.

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  • *Julia* 

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    hmm

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    Vamperay 

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    I think that killing humans just strait out is different then killing people with the death penalty. The death penalty is within the law, and is a punishment, and murder is against the law.

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  In a Carriage of Immortality 

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  Well, hunting animals is a sport, a mean sport, but still a sport. Maybe its illegal *other than death penalty* because humans actually give something to society, and animals...are usually just like house dogs/cats or deer that live in the forest (Not including search/watch/bomb squad dogs), but you can get a hefty fine for torturing and or killing a dog, if caught. Wait, why cant you get a fine for killing deer, but you can get one for animal abuse?

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Did you just imply that animals don't give anything to society? NEWSFLASH! WE ARE ANIMALS!!! And good point about the killing deer animal abuse thing.

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    Tess ~ can blaise zabini be real or? 

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    obviously they mean animal animals Maddy

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    ~Hillary~ *I Love the Way You Love Me* 

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    I don't think Hunting is a sport. There is a difference between Hunting because you need to feed your family and hunting just to show people that your "man" enough to do it. And animals do give to society even when it goes un noticed

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  Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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  I wish I knew why. People think it's okay to kill animals, like deer, as a SPORT, but it's not okay to kill humans or even house pets.

  How come "wild" animals can be killed but it's horrendous if you kill a dog or a cat?

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  • McCloud 

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    Pets, dogs and cats, are considered in blunt terms as possessions worth money and time. The penalty for animal cruelty is because people would repel if the person who was being cruel towards the animal gave them money. That's my opinion..

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    Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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    That is very true, and sad. Isn't it?

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    In a Carriage of Immortality 

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    I love little animals...i dont think deer hunting should be a sport, but also if there wasnt deer hunting, then deer would be everywhere...

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    Mary D. 

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    No, the Mountain Lions, Bears and other predators would get 'em.

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    AJ 

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    It is perfectly legal to eat your dog in forty-eight states.

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    Mary D. 

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    They eat dog in China.

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  • McCloud 

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    They eat grasshoppers, cats, dogs, tarantulas and all sorts of things in Vietnam. Different countries and states have different policies and customs.

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    Bartimaeus at your service. 

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    But Columbia, have we become such a big part of the food chain that the other predators wouldn't be enough?

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    Mary D. 

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    Why has everyone started to call me "Columbia?" Oh well.

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    Bartimaeus at your service. 

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    ... Your name is listed as Columbia.

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    Mary D. 

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    It's only my Halloween persona. I'm Mary. I was Columbia from the Rocky Horror Picture Show for Halloween. My friend Sarah was Magenta, my friend ML was Frank, and my friend Morg was Janet.

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    Juliana C 

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    No one was Dr. Frank-N-Furter?

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    Mary D. 

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    Yes. My friend ML. No one was Rocky though. :(

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    Juliana C 

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    Awww

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  Vamperay 

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  I think that killing humans and killing animals is completley different. I think that killing an animal is different because they are not as evolved (I know that we don't know the following for sure, but it is what I think), and their thought patterns are not as complicated thus they are inferior. And the world was made so that we could kill animals and eat them. The whole way that the world functions depends on us (the preditor) killing the animals (the prey). It is the simple way of life, the food chain. Killing animals to make them into decorations though is different, that I think is wrong and should not be done.

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  • ~Brooke~ 

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    Agreed.

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    Disagreed. We're different from animals, that's why we kill them and think we're inferior. Animals were NOT made for us to eat, and the fact that you could even think about thinking that enrages me.

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    Vamperay (edited)

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    What were they made for, in your opinion.

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    Jonas D 

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    Animals weren't 'made for' anything. They just are, just like us. And they have evolved just as long as us, we have evolved in a certain direction (large brain) and they in another, but in evolution there is no ranking other than the fitness to your environment.

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  • McCloud 

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    Why are we here...why have humans been put on this earth?

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    Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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    We haven't been "put" on this Earth, we've evolved from primates.

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  • McCloud 

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    Exactly. ].[ Random chance. Chaos theory.

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    Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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    Yes. Exactly :D

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    ~Hillary~ *I Love the Way You Love Me* 

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    Well actually in my opinion it depends on who you ask. If you ask someone who is Christian or any Religion they will tell you that God put us on earth but if you ask someone who doesnt believe in God they would agree with you

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  ♥ ;)Lexi;)♥ You will be my vixen, As we improvise, Delivering a captivating performance every time! 

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  I really dont know. It could be that humans are telling animals whos boss or its that we need them to stay healthy.

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  Kailee 

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  Well, humans are definatly above animals. God created man and woman, and the animals AFTER the humans. The animals were there for eating, therefore animals are below humans catagorically.

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    What..why would animals being created after humans mean that they were any less important? And why were they there for eating? What did they ever do? Can't animals feel pain? And you can actually survive without animals. Vegan ftw. And can we not base debates on religious views, please..?

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    ♥ ;)Lexi;)♥ You will be my vixen, As we improvise, Delivering a captivating performance every time! 

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    what McCloud is saying is true just because they came afte dosent mean we a higher

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    Kailee 

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    That's what debate is about, religion and views. :P

    First question: Because God created them for EATING for US
    Second: God told Adam and Eve
    Third: They did not do anything, it is just their purpose on this earth, not just as pets.

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    ♥ ;)Lexi;)♥ You will be my vixen, As we improvise, Delivering a captivating performance every time! 

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    they do things they cleanup after us and because we kill them there is more garbage that damages the earth

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    Granted. Sorry. I'm getting a little frustrated with the same generic God answers. My bad. Forgives the Cloud.

    So animals are basically just are slaves and they have to do what we want?

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    Kailee 

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    I wouldn't say they are slaves, I would say they are for human BENIFIT.

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    ♥ ;)Lexi;)♥ You will be my vixen, As we improvise, Delivering a captivating performance every time! 

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    well the benifit part is true they do help us

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    They do help us live but there are other alternatives. And when you kill something, you put it in immense amount of pain. That's proven. They have emotions and thoughts. Maybe they're not as developed, but so is a baby at like 5 weeks in the womb. They do benefit us but they were not put here for our convenience. Wouldn't have God just made a giant meat vending machine or something, or a plant that provides all vitamins and protein and all the things necessary for life.

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    Kailee 

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    A baby, as I said, has more significance! Humans are above animals! They are more important. Yes, but there are so many more animals, I am not saying I do not care about them.

    No, because sin came into the world. And he let man make the future inventions, and let us progress.

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    ♥ ;)Lexi;)♥ You will be my vixen, As we improvise, Delivering a captivating performance every time! 

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    I dout that humans are more improtant. humans and animals are equal. animals just havent had the chance to learn as fast as we do because we evolve faster

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    Why are humans more significant! I know you've said so, but humans kill, rape, abuse, steal, cheat, lie and murder each other for seemingly no reason. Animals exhibit none of these, really, except maybe murder and thievery, but that's to survive or protect themselves.

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    Kailee 

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    Well, I do not beleive in Evolution. Because there is nothing proven! Fish don't turn into dolphins!

    That is because of sin, Cloud. It's not God's fault, it is Satan's.

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    Why don't animals have sin?

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    Kailee 

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    You'll have to ask God that question in Heaven, if you have accepted Jesus Christ.

    I do not have an answer, I do not know if animals have sin or not.

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    I'm going to stop debating because I'm getting the same kinds of answers here..

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    Kailee 

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    Alright? I am just saying that I do not have all teh answers, I am not perfect.

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    Mary D. 

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    Why did He make all the animals for food, and yet have some animals not taste that good?

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    Bartimaeus at your service. 

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    Quick correction, God didn't make animals after humans in the Genesis story.

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    Mary D. 

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    I reiterate, Why did He make all the animals for food, and yet have some animals not taste that good?

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    AJ 

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    Maybe "He" was slowly weaning us off our dependence of animal protein?

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  • McCloud 

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    I still think God needs to give us a vending machine. O_O Why not make it easy?

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    Mary D. 

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    And if He made some animals taste better than others, why did He make us tasty?

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    Kailee 

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    :P
    He wasn't focused on our pleasure, He was focused on our health.

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    Bartimaeus at your service. (edited)

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    </sarcasm> Also, apparently animals aren't slaves. That would be cruel. We just force them to reproduce so we can slaughter and eat them. That's humane. :). I think the difference should be obvious. </end sarcasm.>

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    Mary D. 

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    Remember to always tag your tags. </PSA>

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    Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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    Kailee, if someone were an atheist, then your point would be invalid, right?

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    Mary D. 

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    You start of with the <sarcasm> tag and end with </sarcasm>

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    It's funny because when you get answers you don't like, you quit. Is that because you hate to be wrong? Why is everyone so against Christ and sin and heaven and all that? And God probably didn't make other animals more tasty then others. Its an opinion. Some people may like the meat that others don't...

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    Kailee 

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    It is my preference and my beleif, my OUTLOOK on this situation, not that anything is right or wrong.

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  • ~Brooke~ 

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    No, I wants talking to you. I share your beliefs... And it's not like I am trying to attack someone's beliefs to hurt them...

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    Mary D. 

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    Then why did He make puffer fish poisonous?

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    Just to screw with us, Columbia.

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    Mary D. 

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    That makes sense.

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  • McCloud 

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    I know, He seems have a lot of things like that.

    Such as poverty.

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    Mary D. 

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    And famine.

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    Tsunamis.

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    Mary D. 

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    Supernovae.

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    We're bitter ones, aren't we?

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    Mary D. 

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    I don't believe in evil forces. I don't even want to give them the credit of existing.

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    Kailee 

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    Sin, sin created the poisen. :P

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  • McCloud 

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    Well, now we kind of now that the pufferfish is poisonous, so that really wouldn't be effective in punishing us..
    And didn't God make pufferfish before sin arrived?

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    Kim Sta *Harry: HAVE YOU EVER NOT READ A BOOK? Hermione: NO!!!* (edited)

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    Without darkness in the world, how would you appreciate the light?

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  • ~Brooke~ 

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    I like that Kim Sta. And as far as why did God to that and why did God do this, you have to remember that we don't know everything yet, but he has known everything all along. And the part about us is proven everyday. Everyday we learn some thing we didn't know before. So, lets just say, we will know why pufferfish are poisonous once we go to heaven, or hell in some cases. Well, I don't know if you will get that kind of information from hell, maybe only the people who go to heaven will know... Okay, sorry. Got sidetracked.

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    Original post is totally wrong and insensitive. VEGETARIANS and VEGANS!! I'm a vegetarian but I try to make 2/3 of my meals vegan.
    SO MEAN, THAT ORIGINAL POST! INSENSITIVE AND JUST WRONG! UGH!

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  • McCloud 

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    I know right. *vegetarian fives*

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    AJ 

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    Yeah! Go vegetarians!

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    Mary D. 

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    I wish I could be vegetarian. :(

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    *goes around and high fives all his fellow veggies*

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    Bartimaeus at your service. 

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    *Is eating meatloaf and bacon* oh.... awkward...

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    Mary D. 

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    *SOB* I want to be vegetarian!!!! :'((

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    Tess ~ can blaise zabini be real or? 

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    alrighty this has gotten off topic hasn't it? :)
    Well I would like to add to the original post
    The earliest human bones were found in East Africa, the dinosaur bones and such found all over the world prove to be older then the human bones
    No disrespect here but I think there is a little more proof that animals were created before humans were
    I guess if ya wanna look at it this way you have to believe in evolution to agree
    and if you don't, then you don't and that's your opinion

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    Su- Won't be on much..indefinitely. 

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    Yay, Tess! I agree with you :D

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    ~Hillary~ *I Love the Way You Love Me* 

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    Thank You someone had to get us back on track. One thing tho some ssay we are more important.....that might be true it might not but we need to know animals are living breathing things We can't just hurt them because we feel all high and mighty

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  Kim Sta *Harry: HAVE YOU EVER NOT READ A BOOK? Hermione: NO!!!* 

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  Circle of Life.

  Humans are animals as well (mammals). Carnivorous animals kill and eat other animals, just not their own species (except in the case of territory or mates). However, Humans CAN survive without eating animals and their products. Killing Humans is illegal because it is our own species and we have a higher level of cognitive thought than animals.

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    True, true. Although we don't necessarily know that last part for a fact.

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    Kim Sta *Harry: HAVE YOU EVER NOT READ A BOOK? Hermione: NO!!!* 

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    I agree

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  Bartimaeus at your service. 

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  The reason as far as I see it is because we ourselves are animals. We have an instinct for self preservation. So we, in our higher cognitive state, created laws based on not wiping our species out. Then we created nuclear weapons. Go figure.

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    True.

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  Marguerite M 

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  1) Humans did not come first, animals did. Even if you are talking about creation when Adam and Eve were sent to the garden of Eden there were already plants and animals.
  2) There are laws against murdering humans because we can create laws and animals can't.
  3) Animals follow mother nature's laws so they don't need human laws. That is why dolphins are always laughing at us...they know how crazy we are.

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  • McCloud 

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    Well said.

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  • ~Brooke~ 

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    Lol. Awesome.

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    Madeleine Who? <3 Music is my escape from reality <3 

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    AWESOME.

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  Juliana C 

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  I have no trouble with eating a hamburger.

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  • McCloud 

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    Lol.

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  *LinDsAY* 

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  Because it's part of the food chain that we kill other animals.

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