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  • mmolino54

    which short stories have changed the way you think about the short story?

    These can be short stories you felt redefined the genre or just ones that left a lasting impression. Two of my favorites are Borges's "The Circular Ruins" (which is online here: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jatill/175/CircularRuins.htm) and David Foster Wallace's "Little Expressionless Animals" (also surprisingly available here: http://books.google.com/books?id=3R8B7UKMRpAC&pg=PA740&lpg=PA740&dq=paris+review+big+book+of&source=web&ots=I3As1KhVYp&sig=NU-VBI8vLcTspsdyodSb8NmQfg8#PPA163,M1). Kafka's "Metamorphisis" ranks up there, too.
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  • Bloom Radio

    Bloom Radio 

    I recently heard a short story that really knocked me down, and I've been thinking a little differently about short stories ever since. I say heard because I heard it on a New Yorker podcast. It's the story Reunion by John Cheever. On the podcast it was really well-read by Richard Ford.

    Also amazingly (I heart the internet) it's available here (it's a short short story):

    http://tinyurl.com/354hwh

    I'm sure everyone else is already hip to Cheever but this is my first (oh I think I read that big radio story somewhere along the way) and man did this hit me hard.
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    • mmolino54

      mmolino54 

      John Cheever is fantastic--I think he's fallen out of favor in the last decade or so, but my wife passed along a collection of his stories to me and they are brilliant. Roald Dahl (of Charlie & The Chocolate Factory fame) also wrote wonderful short stories for adults (they have a very dark sense of humor to them).
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    Kelly Link's collection, Magic for Beginners, and Aimee Bender's Willful Creatures really opened my eyes to really stretching the boundaries of reality and telling stories for its own sake. In Link's collection, while making me really have to concentrate on the story, she uses so many great word choices (really playing with words in my opinion and letting the sounds of words dictate where the story goes, nonsensical as it may be) that I would sit on the couch and just shake my head in wonder.

    That said, I read the collection Cathedral by Raymond Carver again recently and every story in there was really powerful (albeit depressing).

    I took away from Link and Bender to not be afraid to play with language and the story and from Carver, get to the story right out of the gate.
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    • mmolino54

      mmolino54 

      Thanks for throwing those two authors out there--I've never heard or read either Link or Bender. I'll have to check them out. It's such a wonderful feeling when a writer's work gets under your skin like that, especially when it inspires you. -Marc
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  • coreymesler

    coreymesler 

    I wrote only poetry (bad poetry) before I came across Raymond Carver's What we Talk about When we Talk About Love. His beautiful very short stories gave me permission to write prose.
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  • Imani

    Imani 

    I suppose Andre Dubus' collections like "The Last Worthless Evening and Other Stories" established, for me, the idea that short stories were as ambitious and valid a form as novels. I just never gave them much consideration until then.
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  • sweetafton

    sweetafton 

    For years and years, decades even, apart from Shirley Jackson and Jorge Luis Borges, I ignored the short story. It had quite a bit to do with one "Young Goodman Brown" and that damn Faith's pink ribbon. When one afternoon I heard Mira Nair reading "This Blessed House" from Jhumpa Lahiri's The Interpreter of Maladies, I was hooked, and I've got a number of collections in the queue, including one awful collection of Victorian erotica, which is neither Victorian nor erotic. Piffle.
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    • apokalypsis

      apokalypsis 

      Yes, another soul who was tortured by "Young Goodman Brown" and English instructors' elocutions about it -- ugh!
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  • Ellipsis

    Ellipsis 

    I read a short story years ago that convinced me to change my thought pattern. Up until then, I thought that people who wrote short stories were those who didn't have a long enough attention span to write a novel (and I was certainly one of them). After I read "Why I Live at the Post Office", I knew that there was a magic to the short story that couldn't be captured any other way.
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  • NighEve

    NighEve 

    The only one I've read of those you list is Kafka's "Metamorphosis". Although I enjoyed it and like most of Kafka, that story didn't change the way I thought about short stories.

    One that I read recently that I thought was very different was Girl by Jamaica Kincaid. First it is really short; just a paragraph, although a very long one. While reading it I felt like I was listening to the daydreams of a person as they as they considered what it means to be a female, including all the limitations and push against the limitations of the gender.
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    • mmolino54

      mmolino54 

      Hey, that is a cool story (I'm pasting it below for others). I haven't read any Kincaid in over a decade...
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      "Girl" by Jamaica Kincaid

      Wash the white clothes on Monday and put them on the stone heap; wash the color clothes on Tuesday and put them on the clothesline to dry; don't walk barehead in the hot sun; cook pumpkin fritters in very hot sweet oil; soak your little cloths right after you take them off; when buying cotton to make yourself a nice blouse, be sure that it doesn't have gum on it, because that way it won't hold up well after a wash; soak salt fish overnight before you cook it; is it true that you sing benna in Sunday school?; always eat your food in such a way that it won't turn someone else's stomach; on Sundays try to walk like a lady and not like the slut you are so bent on becoming; don't sing benna in Sunday school; you mustn't speak to wharbfflies will follow you; but I don't sing benna on Sundays at all and never in Sunday school; this is how to sew on a button; this is how to make a button-hole for the button you have just sewed on; this is how to hem a dress when you see the hem coming down and so to prevent yourself from looking like the slut I know you are so bent on becoming; this is how you iron your father's khaki shirt so that it doesn't have a crease; this is how you iron your father's khaki pants so that they don't have a crease; this is how you grow okrbafar from the house, because okra tree harbors red ants; when you are growing dasheen, make sure it gets plenty of water or else it makes your throat itch when you are eating it; this is how you sweep a corner; this is how you sweep a whole house; this is how you sweep a yard; this is how you smile to someone you don't like too much; this is how you smile to someone you don't like at all; this is how you smile to someone you like completely; this is how you set a table for tea; this is how you set a table for dinner; this is how you set a table for dinner with an important guest; this is how you set a table for lunch; this is how you set a table for breakfast; this is how to behave in the presence of men who don't know you very well, and this way they won't recognize immediately the slut I have warned you against becoming; be sure to wash every day, even if it is with your own spit; don't squat down to play marblebsyou are not a boy, you know; don't pick people's flowerbsyou might catch something; don't throw stones at blackbirds, because it might not be a blackbird at all; this is how to make a bread pudding; this is how to make doukona; this is how to make pepper pot; this is how to make a good medicine for a cold; this is how to make a good medicine to throw away a child before it even becomes a child; this is how to catch a fish; this is how to throw back a fish you don't like, and that way something bad won't fall on you; this is how to bully a man; this is how a man bullies you; this is how to love a man; and if this doesn't work there are other ways, and if they don't work don't feel too bad about giving up; this is how to spit up in the air if you feel like it, and this is how to move quick so that it doesn't fall on you; this is how to make ends meet; always squeeze bread to make sure it's fresh; but what if the baker won't let me feel the bread?; you mean to say that after all you are really going to be the kind of woman who the baker won't let near the bread?
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  • apokalypsis

    apokalypsis 

    I'm not sure it's considered a short story, but I've got to say George Saunders' "Ask the Optimist" (dramatized in edited form at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3973422089041720086) left a lasting impression, and made me think about the value of short stories for social critique.
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