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This is a group for lovers of True Crime. We are a relaxed group and invite everyone with an interest in True Crime to post whatever they feel like talking about. Feel free to post any True Crime books you have read or want to read and discuss with other members.
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  • koreen56

    Any books about crimes near you?

    Does anyone know of any True Crime books that happened near where you live, or have any other type of personal involvement with the crime?
    koreen56 started this discussion 1 year ago. ( reply )

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  • Carrie

    Carrie 

    I read a book last year called Slave Master.....it was a true crime about a guy in the KC area, which is only 2 hours from me.....I know, I know, that's not really all that close, but so far I think that one is the closest one I've read to where I live! lol It was a really good book, but it very detailed about some things that a lot of people prolly wouldn't like.
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    • koreen56

      koreen56 

      Well, when your out on the great prairie, 2 hours isnt really all that far away.

      I started a book the other day that gave me the idea for this topic. It was called Murder In Minnesota and took place about 1-2 hours away from me. It happened in the early 80's during the farm crises, where people were buying farm land at high prices, then the bottom fell out of the market and people were losing their farms and the guy in the story shot the bankers when they came out to the farm. It was an older book and I didnt read far because after I started it I remembered reading it before.

      I think it always makes a book more interesting if you read about a place and can say you've been there.
      posted 1 year ago. ( reply )
  • Bodrugan

    Bodrugan 

    I'm near Houston, and I've read quite a lot of true crime accounts that have happened there and in the surrounding area. The trouble is I can't think of the titles of the books! Maybe if I describe them, someone will know the books.

    One was about two doctors (or doctor and nurse or therapist?), husband and wife, that were going through a messy divorce and custody battle. The relationship was so nasty that one of the children, the oldest boy, shot and killed the father. The question was whether the mother put him up to it. She admits some culpability -- poisoning the kid's mind -- but she denies telling the kid to do it. Anyway, the boy who was only eleven or twelve was one of the youngest kids in Texas ever to be put on trial.

    Another crime that occurred in Houston was the wife who ran over her estranged hubby, killing him. Her defense strategy made this otherwise run-of-the-mill case quite interesting.

    Perhaps the most famous case that happened in Houston was that of Ash Robinson, wealthy oilman, who had his daughter's widower, John Hill, killed because he felt his erstwhile son-in-law had had something to do with his daughter's mysterious death. It's the subject of Thomas Thompson's Blood and Money. But really the most interesting part is Joan Robinson Hill's death: it could've been murder or it could have been accidental or even natural -- there's still plenty to debate about what caused her demise. But all this happened back in 1969 and the early 1970s, so it's almost historical true crime!
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  • KymPossible

    KymPossible 

    I live in the Pacific Northwest (Seattle Area).. Lots of crimes have happened here. (Bundy, Green River Killer, etc..,)
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  • koreen56

    koreen56 

    I'm reading a book right now called "Raising Roger's Cross". I'm not very far into it, but it takes place near my husband's home town of St. Cloud, Mn. It happened in the 50's so he doesnt remember it and has never heard of it. His aunt lives there now. I'll have to remember to ask her if she remembers it. Oh, and it's not St. Martin's Press.
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    • Bodrugan

      Bodrugan 

      Well, koreen, how did Raising Roger's Cross go? I read the synopsis at Amazon, but I couldn't tell much about it. Some of the reviewers didn't seem to like the author's style. Am I right in assuming that it was some kind of hate towards a young man who was possibly gay that provoked the crime? What kind of place was this Kitten Club?

      I have been off true crime since I read Such Good Boys. I just haven't found any that I want to read. But I'm sure that I'll get back to it.

      I hope that Carrie is getting settled in her new home and she will return to posting here eventually.

      Btw, koreen, what's in your bag of old true crime books that you haven't read yet? I might've read some of those.
      posted 1 year ago. ( reply )
    • koreen56

      koreen56 

      Hi Bodrugan! How did you like Such Good Boys. It kinda sticks with you, doesnt it.

      I kinda put Raising Roger's Cross aside, as I am reading A Thousand Splendid Suns and cant put it down. I should finish it today and need to get back to Raising Roger's Cross, as it is a library book. I also got Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama from the library so I cant wait to get started on that.

      You are right, the writing style of Rogers Cross is a bit different. It is written by a man who is a priest near the town it takes place in and had heard about the crime and decided to research it. Sounds like this is his first book. I'm only up to page 26 so I'll let you know how it goes.

      I have a couple shelfs of True Crime to be read. I take a look at it soon and tell you whats on it. I've been wanting to make a list anyway so i dont go and buy one I already have. Our library book sale is coming up in a couple weeks. Oh Joy!

      I checked out the True Crime section at Kmart yesterday. They are the only store around here that has True Crime. There were so many I couldnt decide so I didnt get any.

      Yes, I hope Carrie comes back soon. I miss her posts.
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    • koreen56

      koreen56 

      Ok, Bodrugan, I finished Raising Roger's Cross. I dont want to tell you too much in case you decide to read the book. I found it very unsatisfying. Most of the book is speculation and based on interviews with people who say the either didnt see anything or dont remember anything. There are very few actual names used. All the witnesses are called by first names and they are probablly made-up names anyway. Nevertheless, on googling this book to see if anything had happened since the book came out, I found out that the author is now being sued by 2 of the witnesses in the book. There are no pictures, except for the cover and one inside of Roger's grave. In my research, I found out that the case has been reopened because of this book, but the last report is almost a year old, and there are no results from an autopsy or an investigation. It seems a lot of this book is based on rumor and speculation rather than fact.

      To answer your question about the Kitten Club.... I was expecting it to be some den of iniquity, a strip joint or something like that. From the description and the map in the book, it looks like it was just a ballroom, almost exactly like the one we used to go to when I was a teenager. They said they didnt even serve hard liquor there, you had to bring your own bottle.
      posted 1 year ago. ( reply )
    • koreen56

      koreen56 

      Bodrugan, you asked me what was in my True Crime stash. I decided to start another thread for that. I'd love to see what is in your stash, too.
      posted 1 year ago. ( reply )
  • Ms. Pretty

    Ms. Pretty 

    They Died Crawling...Manaic In The Bushes...In The Wake Of The Butcher...and Death Ride at Euclid Beach...all about murders and other gruesome accidents in and around Cleveland. All of the crimes and accidents were before my time.
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  • diamondgirl

    diamondgirl 

    Evidence of Murder by Bil McClellan was a local case that was prosecuted by my office. A lot of my coworkers, current and past. Rip in Heaven I think it was called about the Chain of Rocks murder was also prosecuted by my office. Working there we have had so many high profile, major cases it surprises me that more books haven't been written. I have been considering it lately, writing them myself. There was just a show on WE channel this past Monday I think it was about a brutal murder that just happened recently. Ok I am rambling now so I'll stop :-)
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    • koreen56

      koreen56 

      Diamondgirl, ramble all you want. Your job sounds fascinating. I hope you write your book. Then we can say we knew you when... LOL!
      posted 7 months ago. ( reply )
    • diamondgirl

      diamondgirl 

      Ok I will tell you about the case that was on TV real quick. There was a murder in a drug deal gone bad. The cops couldn't find the guy who did it. The murderers g/f, who was beaten by him all the time, turned him into the police. She was 17 years old. All of a sudden she disappeared and the police couldnt find her. She was luired into the house by some of the female friends of this murderer, the oldest of these girls was 19, they spent about 10 hours cutting her with knives and scissors, pouring bleach on the cuts, awful, tortous things. The murderer, who was in jail, was on the phone the whole time listening to these girls do this and instructing them as to what to do next. One of the women involved had her 2 small children there while it was happening. They ended up killing her and dumped the body. They were all just convicted a year or 2 ago. It was horrible. She put up one hell of a fight, but the things these young girls did to her was horrendous.
      posted 7 months ago. ( reply )
  • koreen56

    koreen56 

    They had a Biography channel show a week ago that reminded me I had read that book a long time ago. It was called Final Harvest and was about a farmer who shot 2 bankers when they came to repossess his farm. I'm not exactly sure where Ruthton is but it is in my area of Southern Minnesota.
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    I'm not sure if the Stranger Beside Me mentions Ted Bundy's infamous murders at the Cho Omega house in Tallahasse, FL. but that is where I live, born and raised. A close friend of my parents was in the bedroom next door while the girls were being bludgeoned to death. She actually heard the commotion and called their room but got no answer.

    The Beauty Queen Killer was written about Chris Bernard Wilder. He did a lot of his killing spree through Florida and made his name know in Tallahassee. I remember hearing of him super glueing a girls eyes shut. My brother and I were in junior high school when he came through and I remember us playing outside at night with friends and if someone was off at the end of the street we'd yell "I SEE WILDER!!"
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    • Marian

      Marian 

      Hi FlaBlue...The Stranger Beside Me does definitely mention the Chi Omega murders in Tallahassee. Pretty explicitly so, if I recall correctly.
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      That is one of the few by Ann Rule that I haven't read! I will definately be looking for the book and putting it on my PLAN TO READ list...
      posted 6 months ago. ( reply )
  • Marian

    Marian (edited)

    Yes, 3! CrazyMaker & Family Affairs (both on my shelf, which are 2 different books about the same crime) are about people my brother & I knew in Overland Park, KS (a Kansas City suburb). At the time of the crime, I went to High School with 1 of the accused/convicted killers, and my brother went to Junior High with the victim. Bitter Harvest (Anne Rule) is about a woman also from Kansas City. I still see the site of the burned down house where the children died when over in that end of town...the city has since razed the ruins of the house - it wasn't ever rebuilt - and made a small "park" on the former property. Carrie, I will also have to check out SlaveMaster...I had seen the title on Shelfari before, and had definitely wondered if it was about "that" infamous SlaveMaster, also from the Kansas City area.
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  • angel

    angel (edited)

    4--Atlanta child murders, philadelphia move members tradegy, the kidnapping of a little love in Sioux Falls South Dakota and a murder in Killeen texas--I happened to live in all four places at one time--scared me half to death--I was thinking it was jink for me to move---lol
    posted 5 months ago. ( reply )
  • koreen56

    koreen56 

    Did anyone hear about the case where a bunch of boys out to have a good time, threw a bowling ball of a bridge and it went through the windshield of a semi and hit the driver in the face? It was on the national news and made the morning talk shows.
    posted 3 months ago. ( reply )
  • Sarah A

    Sarah A 

    nebraksa has charles starweather, annie cook, and the btk killer that i know of...i've read about all three...Evil Obsession about Annie Cook by Nellie Snyder Yost actually happened in my town...It's a great read
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    • Sarah A

      Sarah A 

      There was the Ochoa case here in North Platte last year...where the 16 year old girl and her boyfriend killed her mom and 4 year old sister....it mirrors the starkweather case alot!! i'm hoping that someone writes it up in a comparison study
      posted 3 months ago. ( reply )
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