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Octavia Butler (June 22, 1947 - February 24, 2006) is the grande dame of the group of African-American women writing in the field of science and speculative fiction (others include Tananarive Due and Nalo Hopkinson). She received the MacArthur Foundation's "genius grant" (1995) and won the Hugo and Nebula Awards several times.

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  • sweetafton

    Survivor

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    For the technologically skilled of you, who also do not want to shell out nearly $200 for a battered copy, you can locate an e-file of Survivor for Kindle. I'm not technologically skilled, but my mister is, and apparently, it's been cataloged on a public domain/out-of-print files site.

    It's been the holy grail for so long that I'm almost afraid to dive in...
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  • NighEve
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    What a tease! Let's have the site! I will become technologically skilled for this.
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    • NighEve
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      http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/

      Is this it?
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  • uplandpoet
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    well, did you ever was worth the trouget the download? have you read the book? ble? i went looking, and found several sites, except they dont actually have it:(
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    • sweetafton
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      How much garlic-spiked coffee had you drunk when you wrote that message, upland? LOL

      I haven't read it yet, because my mister has been taking the machine with him on his commute. Never fear, when I do read it, I will spill ALL the beans.
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    • uplandpoet
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      none that day, but i have a tendency to do something when typing that pops my line of type back up in the middle of what i have already typed, and as i watch my fingers and not the screen, it can get weird:)
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  • Dame Daisy Barksby-Pryce
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    As Survivor was published in 1978, it's not in the public domain. Anything published after 1977 is copyrighted for the rest of the author's life, plus seventy years.

    Which is why, I'm guessing, it's been taken down off of all the web sites I've found it on. Sorry!

    However, if you ever come to Georgia, there are ten copies available statewide in the library system. If you want to visit and read Survivor with me, let me know! ; D
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    • sweetafton

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      Well now, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Never knew the legal side of things, so thanks for providing that info., Aimeesue.

      Sorry, just had to add the 'k' to the 'new'... it bugged me.
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    • Dame Daisy Barksby-Pryce
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      I'm just happy to be able to put to use some of that innane trivia I have floating around my head. ; D I mean, what's up with the "plus seventy years" thing? Good thing I wasn't drawing up the laws, I'da put it at 75. Or 100.
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    • uplandpoet
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      who knows what they are thinking? i think it used to be 26 yrs, what is with that, too?
      i wonder who owns her rights? does she have children? or is it some publishing company? i wonder if anyone would like to put back in print say pod? they could sell a few hundred copies, just based on folks that sweet has gotten excited about it:)
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    • Dame Daisy Barksby-Pryce
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      Mmmm, whoever it is, they should be payin' off sweet for generating such an interest and upping demand!
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    • sweetafton
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      I don't know who owns the rights to any of her work now that she's dead, but she was the one who kept it out of print while she was alive. She was embarrassed by it (paraphrase). Perhaps rightly so. But the idea that she didn't want me (or the rest of us) to read it, excites the curiosity more than a bit.

      Nick and Greg T should weight in here at some point, both having made it to the final full stop, I think.
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    • Dame Daisy Barksby-Pryce
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      Isn't that always the way? Someone tells me I'm not supposed to read something, and I fell like I must go out immediately and devour it! = D
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    • Minnie Estelle Miller
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      sweetafton, why?

      ]]She was embarrassed by it (paraphrase). [[
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  • mmolino54
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    No library can get you like an inter-library loan copy? Surely, there must be a way (besides paying $100 on amazon.com or something).
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    • sweetafton
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      Oh, I've got my mitts on it. Just have to wrestle the e-reader away from my mister. I'll send you a file if you like.
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    • mmolino54
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      I've got no e-reader, so unless it's a PDF or something I can read with my regular old laptop, I'm outta luck. If it is something I can read on my laptop, please do send it!
      -marc
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  • sweetafton
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    estelle, here's what Butler had to say in a 1991 interview in "Callaloo":

    "One of the things that I was most embarrassed about in my novel Survivor is my human characters going off to another planet and finding other people they could immediately start having children with. Later I thought, oh well, you can't really erase embarrassing early work, but you don't have to repeat it" (500).

    I read something else in another publication, but don't recall which.
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  • Milagros R
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    I met her twice. Both times at the Miami Book Fair. the first time I followed her to the rest room. As she washed her hands, I introduced myself (I was so nervous) and mentioned how much Surviror cost. She hissed and said it wasn't worth it.
    A few years later, she again appeared at this festival. It was right after she wrote fledging. I sat next to her before the event and told her that at FIU there was a course about her. She was surprised. A photogapher took a pic of us. I'm trying to find her.
    My heart broke when she died. I have all but her books but survivor. if anyone know where i can get it cheaper that 200., i'd appreciate it. PEACE

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  • Dan Tres  Omi
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    I found it at my local library and ate it in a day.

    To be honest, I have to agree with the late great author. It came off like more of a brainstorm. There's like three stories in it that she later used for the Clay Ark story arc and the Xenogensis series. It was very choppy and moved too quickly. She never did background info on the story so the reader will feel like there are some chapters missing.

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    • sweetafton
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      I've only managed to wade through the first fifty or so pages; I find the writing tedious, and while there are so many tempting books on my shelf, unappealing. Maybe one day I'll finish reading it; maybe I'll just be content to take your word for it.

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