Very interesting: I beg to differ with you, could you find me a verse outside of The Acts -Jude that says carnal things are not spiritual things. When Nicodemus used the example of a birth of a baby in St John 3;4 it was a good time for Jesus to say you can't use that example it is carnal. He didn't. Jesus said that Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. He is speaking of a carnal experience.
But if the born again experience doesn't happen to you, you won't be able to understand what it means. St Matthew 13;11 He answeared and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them (unsaved) it is not given. Jesus spoke in allegory parables which is no help, but Ezekiel revealied what it means to be born again and receive the Holy Ghost, it happened to me without water. 36;26-25-27 and it is carnal. 26 (Sin is in the heart) A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit (Holy Ghost)will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart (the one your born with) out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. (from God)
If you led a life like I led, and if you think I could began to remember all my sins your crazy. Baptism in water is not essential, it only gets you wet, along with the sacraments. The only thing, these things do is keep the money coming in. The true baptism of the Holy Ghost is the same as Jesus received when He was baptized by John (in water) God knew that when Jesus came up out of the water His first breath He would have his mouth open and that was when the Holy Ghost entered His mouth and it went down His throat. It never lighting on Him as the Bible says. St Matthew 3;16 Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: St Matthew 20;23
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