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  • polysciscribe

    The one piece of literature you.....

    As English Majors/Minors we have all come across pieces of literature we have loved and certainly ones we have hated. Do we dare name the one piece of literature that drove us crazy, that we just did not like, could not appreciate, or just could not bear to read again?
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  • gilhaus

    gilhaus 

    I don't even know if this meets all the criteria of your question, but I am currently re-reading Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale, which I hated when I was in high school 20 years ago and hate even more this time around. There are some flights of brilliant prose, some truly evocative phrases and images, but on the whole, that's not enough if your plot is absurd and your characters repulsive. (Actually, it it the plot that is most required, I suppose, because The Great Gatsby, one of my favorite books of all time, is certainly peopled with repulsive characters.) Anyway, I hate the handmaid and I hate the Handmaid's Tale.
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    • oiseau_blanc

      oiseau_blanc 

      you hated handmaid's tale??? wow! its one of the best feminist dystopias around.!!!
      maybe you should read a few dystopias like brave new world to compare it with.
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    • tomwootton

      tomwootton 

      I disliked it immensely at school as well, and have never gone back to it. Because I can still remember that it seemed immensely inferior to an awful lot of actual science fiction that I was reading at the time. It seeemed to have an agenda, which I always dislike in books - oiseau_blanc has, I think, hit the nail on the head, well, apart from that being a good thing.
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  • Jamie

    Jamie 

    Fielding's _Tom Jones_! I can't say I hated it, and I do appreciate it, but I'm not sure I will have the inclination to read it again. There are just too many digressions--all with a didactic purpose; it's as though Fielding is trying to display ALL of his knowledge for us, but it's just too much . . . for me. Also, Eliot's great epic poem _The Wasteland_; again, I appreciate this work and what he was trying to do, but I gain no pleasure from reading it. What about you, poly?
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    • polysciscribe

      polysciscribe 

      For me i would have to say that I have a love/hate relationship with the early American Puritan writings: The Journal of John Winthrop, The New England Primer, Williams Wigglesworth. The love/hate does not even stem from a different belief, but just from the so very simplistic nature of the writings and yet the relevence of them.

      I have learned to hate Joseph Conrad's The Heart of Darkness just by sheer repeatition, my senior seminar class we had to write on The Heart of Darkness from four different critical lenses. We all said we never wanted to see The Heart of Darkness again!

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    • englishteacherchick

      englishteacherchick 

      Oh my, polyscisribe, I couldn't agree with you more. I loath HoD about as much as Paradise Lost, and the early American writings are important but are a total drag to get through!
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    • Rebecca R

      Rebecca R 

      Fielding's work has proven very difficult for me too! I appreciate what makes it good literature (the digressions into moral issues were satirizing the norm of the time, etc.), but it's so dry and uninteresting to me on a non-educational basis. I'm also not a big fan of some of Henry James's longer work. Daisy Miller and Washington Square were fun, but Wings of the Dove and Portrait of A Lady were too much for me.
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    • Kristin C

      Kristin C 

      Tom Jones is one of my favorite books! D: I love Fieldings interactions with the reader. Something I would never do, and have hated in other works, but loved when he did it. I love that book!
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  • praisingfool

    praisingfool 

    I realize that I am in the VAST minority here, but most of the stuff we read in my Brit Lit classes was stuff I'd love to never see again! (Pride & Prejudice, Midsummer Night's Dream, Paradise Lost, The Canterbury Tales...)

    I know...I'm a failure as an English major!
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    • polysciscribe

      polysciscribe 

      Believe me you are NOT a failure as an English major! There were so many stories and tales and critiques I wanted to leave behind! But, also so many that were rich and rewarding and amazing! I guess the cliché you have to take the bad with the good is applicable.


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    • Songy

      Songy 

      I've never liked Shakespeare and I'm not a failure as an English major, at least I don't think so. There is so much I haven't read - but I do like Chaucer.
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    • aalitfiend

      aalitfiend 

      I can agree with you about Brit lit. I did one (required) semester and didn't want to take more.
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    • oiseau_blanc

      oiseau_blanc 

      cannot say i hate shakespeare, but i sometimes felt that there was too much shakespeare studying as a lit. major.the last yr. in my MA without the bard was as fresh as could be.!!
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    • Crystal D

      Crystal D 

      I totally agree, praisingfool. I didn't like most of it either.
      posted 9 months ago. ( reply )
  • Songy

    Songy 

    I guess I would have to say my least favorite or maybe the hardest to get through was Gargantua by Rabelais. I took a Comedy and Satire class and although I surprised myself by liking Plato and Aristophanes this was one piece I struggled with. I found it to be a arduous task of reading. I skipped around just to stay up to date on the discussions.

    The other piece was Lolita by Vladimir Nabakov. He is an amazing writer but the mere subject matter was very difficult for me. There were parts that just floated by in the beauty of the language - but the interaction of the main characters turned my stomach on a morality level. I couldn't detach myself from it, personal issues and all that stuff.

    One more piece and I'm sure you'll think I'm crazy is Daisy Miller by Henry James. I found the work very wordy and I really struggled with finishing it. I didn't like Daisy and that made it a difficult read.
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    • Sindhukutty

      Sindhukutty 

      I'm ashamed to confess my one lapse- theone and only book I couldn't endure to even skim through, especially because even usual non-readers enjoy it, it's got God knows how many prizes and been translated over and over aand filmed about twice at least. I couldn't even make myself watch the film! OK, head bent with shame- but I cannot and I will not read Pasternaks Dr. Zhivago. My reason if I had to give one would probably along the lines of the famous
      I do not like thee Dr. Fell
      The reason Why I cannot tell
      But This I know and know full well
      I DO NOT like thee Dr. Fell.
      Maybe in apologia I could honestly mention that I am almost a fanatic fan of Russian Literature, with this one exception?
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    • Songy

      Songy 

      Don't feel bad we like what we like. I have gotten to the point where I can't say in public that I didn't like the LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY - books or films. I feel like I'm committing some kind of blasphemy. They put me to sleep. I've never been interested in Harry Potter either. Sue me.
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    • teacherrice

      teacherrice 

      I hated Heart of Darkness so much that I remember telling my beloved Lit professor that he was a jerk for making women read what was obviously a male-oreiented novel. In my youth I mistakenly believed I couldn't "get" male-driven lit. Though I now see the youngness of my ways, I still hate the book. I know many love it, but I just cannot get into it.
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  • beardedshadow

    beardedshadow 

    Jane Austen
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      :::gasp::: Really?! If those were the only books I could read for the rest of my life, I would be ok with it. If no to Jane, who would you not be able to live without? Please don't say Thomas Pynchon, please don't say Thomas Pynchon...
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  • MissDaisyAnne

    MissDaisyAnne 

    I have not found any literature I hate yet, but I have read books that I really had a hard time reading and or understanding.
    1. Sylvia's Lovers by Elizabeth Gaskell
    2. Our Mutual Friend by Charles Dickens
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  • aalitfiend

    aalitfiend 

    I'd be happy not to read Chaucer again or Milton either. I'm not sure if it was the literature or the teachers for the courses but I just couldn't get interested in the works. Plus, how many times can you read the Canterburry Tales?
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  • oiseau_blanc

    oiseau_blanc 

    as for me, i hated reading DH Lawrence.still do.i just could not stand his airy-fairy oh-so-philosophical perspective without much actual philosophy packed in.i was so happy to find kate millett agreeing with me in sexual politics later!!
    there was a time when i used to hate austen, but i think i can now read her without pulling my hair off.its easy.you just have to remember the times she wrote in.

    and i liked heart of darkness without falling head over heels in love with it.it does give rise to some stimulating debates!!
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  • Fil of the Future

    Fil of the Future 

    Dickens, particularly David Copperfield. I tried to read it for entertainment but just couldn't finish it. D:
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  • zawadi

    zawadi 

    Paradise Lost.

    I was lost most of the time. I tried to get through it. I didn't. Feeling pretty pitiful admitting it, too.
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    • H.

      H. 

      I'm sooo with you.
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    • englishteacherchick

      englishteacherchick 

      I totally agree with you. Reading it was truly painful and it wasn't until the Milton Marathon reading at my University that I was able to even see any purpose or skill with the verse.
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    • Christina

      Christina 

      Ooooh, John Milton! I remember reading his Doctrine for Divorce in college, and after eliminating all of the clauses in the sentence (which was the length of a solid paragraph) the sentence itself was a fragment. *ugh*
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  • denisse pangan

    denisse pangan 

    It would be "The Grapes of Wrath" by Steinbeck. It's not that I don't like it but reading it makes me taste poverty at its worst.
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      For some reason, I love Steinbeck's shorter works (Of Mice and Men, Cannery Row), but every time I try a long one (Grapes, East of Eden), I can't seem to get into it.
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    • Kiki68

      Kiki68 

      I love East of Eden--it is my favorite of his, and one of my all time favorite books.
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  • Kiki68

    Kiki68 

    William Faulkner's As I Lay Dying--I just can't get into any of the stream of conciousness literature--be it British or American lit! James Joyce's Portrai tof the Artist, and Ulysses is just as bad! I had to read Portrai for an AP class in high school, and it was bad. Just painful.

    On an up note, I despised Hemngway in high school, and just finished A Farewell to Arms, and can honestly say that I think maturity and time have helped me like that one more than I did in 10th grade!
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      I read Hemingway in college, and I am still not a fan. His prose always reminded me of a stalled car: lots of choppy sentences, no flow. I appreciate simplicity, but it is hard to build a rhythm. There is something about the deflated/impotent male theme too that seems to run through his works that just does not appeal to me... starts to feel whiny.
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    • Kiki68

      Kiki68 

      Don't get me wrong, he is not my favorite--I am with you on the whiny impotent male them--however, I have become a defender of Hemingway here on Shelfari--he seems to get bashed on such a regular basis around here, and he really isn't that bad.
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  • Christine

    Christine 

    Thoreau's Walden. I've got a knot in my stomach just from typing that.

    And perhaps Samuel Richardson's Clarissa -- 1,530 pages that could have easily been less than 100. I remember having to read that in my Novel class, and at the end trying to rally up some classmates to burn our books. And that's saying something, because I'm definitely OCD when it comes to taking care of my books...99% still look brand new.
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  • Elizabeth Kropf

    Elizabeth Kropf 

    I was a straight English major and when I had to read Beowolf in old English I changed my major. Even reading it again now in modern translation, I can't get past all the gore.
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      Why did you HAVE to? I didn't read Beowulf until I had to teach it myself, and even then I taught a translation. I did have to read Chaucer in Middle English, but Old English is really a whole other language... I guess I might have dropped the major too if I was required to read it in the original :(
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  • ellemorgan

    ellemorgan 

    I really dislike Melville. I've tried to read Moby Dick, Billy Budd, Benito Cereno, and Bartleby the Scrivener, but I was only able to finish Billy Budd. I'm not sure I can articulate why I loathe Melville's writings.
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    • onyx2201

      onyx2201 

      I despise Faulkner, except for "A Rose For Miss Emily". Hated Moby Dick and most of what was required reading from the 17th, 18th and 19th century authors.

      I can deal with Dickens at Christmas, I like the stuff that was not taught that for the most part I found on my own, like Pudd'n Head Wilson by Twain.

      I confess I have NEVER after multiple tries read the Lord of the Rings. I cannot get into it. I've tried.

      I was grateful to take courses in Adolescent Lit, which really perked up my day and have far more useful. I teach junior hi reading and social studies.









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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      Here, here! I had to read Benito Cereno and Bartleby in college and hated every minute of it! I have since made it my life's mission to avoid Moby Dick. When I was in London two years ago, I happened to pass a building displaying a plaque indicating that Melville had once lived there. I took a photo in front of it with my tongue sticking out and two thumbs down! Boo, hiss!
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  • Crystal D

    Crystal D 

    Most of It. I loved Alcott. I liked Perkins Gilman. Loved Wordsworth, Dickenson, Browning(Elisabeth), Keats, Walker, and Rosetti

    I couldn't stand Woolf, Austen, Emily Bronte', Faulkner,

    Like many others, I can do Dickens at Christmas. That's the extent of my patience.

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  • tomwootton

    tomwootton 

    Ye Gods, there's loads of stuff. I recently read Sanatorium Under the Sign of the Hourglass by Bruno Schulz: diabolical. Threw the book into the corner of my living room in anger and haven't recovered it.

    That's currently the work I have most contempt for. Dreadful, precious and self-indulgent. Introduction by John Updike, which should have warned me.

    Tom
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  • amphorra

    amphorra 

    It had to be William Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury....I still have nightmares ;-)
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  • Melinda E

    Melinda E 

    Paradise Lost! I had to read it once in high school and then again in college. I just think its arrogant and irritating. I've seen Heart of Darkness listed on a lot of people's "hated" list, but it is one of my favorite pieces of all time. There are many more I disliked, but none that I abhor more than Paradise Lost.
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  • Twinkley

    Twinkley 

    Moby Dick!! Hated that book with a passion. I also got sick of Shakespeare. I can only appreciate him in small doses but I had to take 2 classes on him and ugh! Ulysses gets an honorable mention only because I didn't even try after 50 pages of it. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for potentially improving.
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  • sjk303

    sjk303 

    I never did enjoy most of Austin's works. I appreciate her innovation, her construction of character, and her social observations; however, I find her style of writing stilted and flat.

    I could write numerous paragraphs in defense of Moby Dick -- it is one of my favorite books, and I re-read it yearly. I often recommend to students and friends that they wait five to ten years before they try reading The White Whale if they disliked it the first time.
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  • Sarshi

    Sarshi 

    Just started Minoring around in uni. First year. So don't jump all on me because I don't know somebody or another.

    Up until now, I can say I definitely hated Beowulf with a passion. All the male boasting, unlikely scenarios (swimming for 5 days continuously while battling sea monsters? pft. right. even Superman needs sleep and rest), impossible language and continuous remembering of the Grendel & mom episode drove me up the walls...
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      But Beowulf is an epic, which accounts for its unlikely scenarios. It's supposed to be larger than life. Also, it was originally an oral tale told by scops (pronounced shopes). When you tell a story aloud, especially one this long, there must be some circularity built in to refresh the memories of the audience members. But I do agree with you about the male posturing... the number of phallic references is comical!
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  • becky j

    becky j 

    Um I hate hate hate Cooper's Last of the Mohicans.
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  • Sarah M

    Sarah M 

    well, well. The one I hated most was Mrs. Dalloway (along with The Heart of Darkness). It was the Darkest year of all. I couldn't understand what it was all about, and the events didn't have any intrigue in it. Boring, too boring for anyone to continue reading after the first line I must say (maybe The Heart of Darkness was better in that, at least it had some action in it). Although, most times, I hate too much description yet Jane Austen took my heart away. I hope I am able to as I am now reading Modern novels (like The Vision for I don't remember who, and Stephen King books-check my shelf). Anyway, I also, didn't like much Great Expectations. I only took the first part but I don't feel like picking it up again, I don't know why.
    thank u for reading my message
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    • msestradaiscool

      msestradaiscool 

      Yeah, I can't say Woolf is a favorite of mine either. Book-length stream of consciousness doesn't exactly spell riveting to me... I would read a page or too and then have to go back because I had no idea what was going on. But, I did love Great Expectations. I read it in the 9th grade and wanted to be Pip! I wanted a mysterious patron to "adopt" me and set me up with an education and opportunities that I never would have had otherwise. And Miss Havisham was so pitiful and cookoo, you just had to love her!
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  • Alissa

    Alissa 

    I'm surprised to see how many people hate some of the texts I really enjoyed: Milton, for one, and Chaucer. That's my time period, though (early lit -- mostly medieval and renaissance), so maybe it's built in? :-)

    Personally, there's very little that was written in the twentieth century or later that I really enjoyed reading. I'm fine up through the Victorian era, ending with the fin-de-siecle British writers, but after Modernism kicks in in the early twentieth, a lot of the books which are now considered 'literature' (i.e. taught in literature classes) are just not interesting and not appealing to me. Especially James Joyce. I would be incredibly happy never to see any of Joyce's books ever again. Grrr.
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  • helterskelter

    helterskelter 

    I definitely agree that Conrad's Heart of Darkness is my least favorite. But, alas, I had to read it for my Freshman Composition class and the professor was in love with it so I had to put up with lectures on it for hours on end!
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  • Mandy S

    Mandy S 

    One of the most difficult reads for me is Great Expectations. For some reason, I had the hardest time getting through the novel though one of my favorites is A Tale of Two Cities!
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  • SandyLender

    SandyLender 

    Oh, dear. I don't like to bash anything for fear it will happen to me someday. Karma and all. Having said that, I did not enjoy Grapes of Wrath. I read it one summer in high school "for fun" and didn't think it was "fun". So when it was required reading in one of my lit classes in college, I skimmed and prayed I wouldn't have to participate in class. Oh, yeah, no hiding out in the back row for me. So while I couldn't bear to read it again, I'll say this: the part I "participated in class" with was the scene in which the families in the camp get all miffed because the mother has allowed their children to lick the stew pot she's fixed her family's dinner in. The starving children go back to their families' camp sites somewhat sated, but smelling of stew, and the parents get up in arms over it. They come after the mother telling her how horrible she is for feeding their children and teasing them with the sumptuous smells of food. But wait...aren't parents supposed to die for their kids? Social commentary at its best, I'd say.

    Now. I put it to you: even though I've said I didn't like Grapes of Wrath and couldn't bear to read it again, I have deep appreciation for an author who wrote something that stuck with me for 20+ years.
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  • Lachie

    Lachie 

    I'm not sure about being unable to live without, I often struggle with list making for anything personal, be they novels, music, film or television. But having studied The Great Gatsby once in my final year of high school, then again in my first year at university I have never re-read a novel so many times, and it still fails to become tedious and I am still awed by the sheer strength of prose. Probably my second most re-read book would be the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy of five. I think many of you are Americans and this is an incredibly English book, especially when it is based almost entirely on the most English of games cricket. However being an Australian of English descent I find it like a strange intergalactic home song calling me to the mother-land and Lords, which probably makes no sense to you.
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  • Kristin C

    Kristin C 

    "Sound and Fury" by Faulkner seriously made me want to stab myself in the eye with a pen to escape it.

    "The Old Man and the Sea" - I thought I would die of boredom. I can't believe I made it through pages on pages on pages of an old man talking to his hand.

    Dickens - Oh man...I had to read "Hard Times" in college and it was just so long-winded and terrible.

    I'm sure there are more.
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  • hajar z

    hajar z 

    yes of course " The Old man and the sea" by hemingway and "The Great gatsby" by fitzgerald i couldn't appreciate, i didn't like and i don't want to re-read again. i''d like to re-read a dolls house the play it's really good.
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    • Alizabeth  S

      Alizabeth S 

      Ew, I hated both those in High School. But when I re-read Gatsby in college I actually really liked it. I'd try to give Old Man and the Sea another try, but I just can't bring myself to do it. I HATED IT!!
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  • Roxpie86

    Roxpie86 

    Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison. I got through Part 1, but after a few pages of Part 2, I had to put it down.

    I know that she is a beloved author, so I'll probably give her other works a try, but I will never pick that one up again.
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  • Kat

    Kat 

    PAMELA BY SAMUEL RICHARDSON!!!!

    Ugh. Just typing the name makes me gag. Hundreds of pages of "My purity! My innocence! No Mr.B, don't feel me up in the garden shed! My virtue! My Virtue! MY VIRTUE, I SAID!"

    I would say "Old Man and the Sea", since I threw it across the room in an angry fit, but then I realized that was Hemmingway's point. He wanted to write an intentionally exhausting and frustrating story, and he must have done a great job since I had such a visceral reaction. So, on the contrary, I actually count it as a personal favorite now.

    I had a lot of trouble "getting" Woolf's work, but I can appreciate the artistic flow. If I don't have to read her stuff for any particular reason it's downright enjoyable.
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