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Borges' Ficciones
Started by Jamie, Monday, January 7 2008. Last post Tuesday, June 10 2008.

"Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius"

Borges' intelligence just blows my mind. I was first struck by his brevity, which Christ points out in his book on Borges (which I am reading concurrently). I get the sense that he is communicating only what he deems necessary, a technique I liken to Hemingway. Hemingway’s style was, of course, completely different, but both authors seem to find adjectives—and details in general—excessive. Convey to the reader only what must be conveyed and cut out all the “procedure” when it comes to writing.

What’s going on with the planet of Tlon? What is Borges saying? Or does he have no purpose? I think Christ quotes him saying something about how he never writes with intention—he just writes.

Still, what do we make of this advanced society created by men to befuddle men? And by the end Borges informs us that the ways of Tlon have infiltrated reality, so much so that Tlon’s reality is a part of Earth’s reality. Is he suggesting that our literary creations can have profound effects on us—such that the books we read become real to us?

There is so, so much to discuss here. I’ve provided something of an introduction. What do you think?
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mmolino54 - Friday, January 11 2008
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I love the way this story starts: A mirror at the end of a hallway reminds someone of a quotation that ends up being a fake entry in a real reference book. It’s vagueness launches the story into a search for the “truth”, which turns out to blur the lines between fiction and reality. The last I read this story was probably 8 years ago or so and I’d forgotten just how seductive Borges’s writing is—he writes with the gravitas of a wise, old historian and before you know it all the layers of the onion have been peeled away and you’re left contemplating a non-existent center. He takes the reader from quotation to encyclopedia entry to discovering an entire set of encyclopedias just as he takes you from false country to false region to false planet. Though Tlon is a creation of the imagination, the belief in it is real and it has enough characteristics that it begins to have an influence on the real world, which begs the question of what makes it not real. Borges seems to be toying with the fundamental nature of language and logic. Our mental creations become as real as anything we perceive with our senses. Perhaps they were always there as those on Tlon believe: there being but one author and one plot with countless twists or extrapolations (“forking paths”). As I read through this story it made me think of a funhouse of mirrors with countless reflections or duplications—all the same and yet different ever so slightly and indistinguishable from the original. Like the hronir, cycling through iterations that sometimes improve upon the mold, but eventually come full circle and fade from the memory or get erased by time.

What did you think of psychology being the primary science on Tlon? And what of the fact that a group of elites basically fabricates this conspiracy of a third planet (“Orbis Tertius”)? I laughed when I read about them bringing the idea to the American Buckley, who thinks the idea of creating a fictional country too modest and proposes the creation of an entire planet. Borges does an intricate job of weaving the real and fictional throughout this story with references to actual people and books, as well as those from his own imagination. A quote from his prologue caught my eye: “The composition of vast books is a laborious and impoverishing extravagance. To go on for five hundred pages developing an idea whose perfect oral exposition is possible in a few minutes! A better course of procedure is to pretend these books already exist, and then to offer a resume, a commentary.”

I haven’t read any Fitzgerald in a while, but I’d be interested just to compare his style to Borges’s.

Wikipedia also has a writeup on just this Borges story here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlön,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius

I can’t imagine reading him in actual Spanish (mainly because I can’t read Spanish); as it is, I have to reach for the dictionary every other paragraph in English.

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tomwootton - Sunday, January 13 2008
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tomwootton - Sunday, January 13 2008
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Hey. I would certainly second what you are saying about his brevity. Nor is it the slightly choppy style of brevity you can get with some writers; he displays a remarkable elegance of both thought and expression in everything he writes.

I was recently reading a couple of very brief essays on the Welsh supernatural writer Arthur Machen that he wrote, unfortunately untranslated. The economy really is marvellous and looks so simple, when it is far from it.

As for Tlon, a remarkable story innit! The only thing I would add is that I think it can be a slight deception to go down the philosophical or abstract route when reading Borges. I'm reminded of what he said in another of his stories, it must be one of his library ones, where he said that the library is not infinite although it appears to be and conjecture on the matter can be misleading.

The philosophy is part of the aesthetic and is not the essential meaning.

I'm reminded slightly of the Father Brown stories, of which Borges was a great admirer, where the horrific mystery, which helps provide so much of the atmosphere fear and menace is eventually shown to be merely a way of looking at the world (in Father Brown's Catholic viewpoint, a mistaken way of looking at the world which he 'solves').

So it is that Borges' stories strike me as graceful deceptions, where the forking paths of the realities and philosophies are like the intricacies of the first letter of an illuminated manuscript.

To give an example - What is left for me, say, from the story of Funes the Memorius (sorry to switch stories, but I haven't got the book to hand as I'm at work) is the image of a child running along the sunlit top of a wall, and his adult self in blind darkness rather than theoretical explorations of memory - although that is very much part of the fun as well!

Short story writer VS Pritchett wrote a marvellous essay on this side of Borges, collected in a book on South American writers - I'll see if I can dig it out.

Tom
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Jamie - Tuesday, January 15 2008
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Why are you bringing up Fitzgerald? Did you mean Hemingway?

Borges and Hemingway possess completely dissimilar styles, but Borges' approach to writing does remind me of Hemi