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  • llevinso

    The Carriage House 2012 ***links to all past group reads listed here!***

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    This is the thread other groups often call "The Parking Lot". Since we live in a slower, gentler era of literature, I thought "The Carriage House" seemed a bit more appropriate. We seem to be posting a number of lists, websites, etc., which would be nice to have handy in one spot.

    Some things which you might post here:

    *Book lists
    *Author sites
    *Literary analysis sites
    *Book related news stories (such as rare books that sold for Bill Gates' pocket change-and the rest of our life insurance policies)
    *Book related films being released

    Basically anything that you think we classical bibliophiles would like at our fingertips!
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  • llevinso
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    I ran across this cool list of "manly" books today while looking around online. They're mostly classics (though not all) and basically it's just a good list of adventure books: http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/02/the-essential-man%E2%80%99s-library-adventure-edition-part-one-fiction/

    It's from someone's blog from a couple of years ago but I still thought it was worth sharing. What do you think? Any glaring omissions? Have you read a lot of these?

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    • BookSnacker
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      I have only read about 10 of the books, but I have seen the movie versions of all the ones that have them. Does that count?

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      Ah, Art of Manliness--great site!

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    • llevinso
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      Going through the list myself I've read...Hatchet, Treasure Island, The Odyssey, Lord of the Flies and Heart of Darkness. Does that mean I'm a man?!?! Those are some good books though. A lot that I haven't read are on my TBR. And it's given me some ideas for stuff to add as well. Like that Captain Blood sounds intriguing.

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      So whose Art? The guy in the top hat or the pugilist? And Llevinso, it does take some manly "forbearance" to be a Cubs fan the past few years.

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      The Hobbit doesn't seem so "manly" to me, not compared to the LotR. The Emilio Salgari books look interesting. Also, not sure that Peter Pan is a good choice since the description says it's a favorite of boys right before bedtime.

      Hmm what about Ian Fleming? I've not read them, but who is more manlier than James Bond?

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    • llevinso
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      Ian Fleming. Good call Jerry! And I was wondering about the other Mark Twain books that this manly man left off his list. I mean, what about The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? Or Tom Sawyer? Oh and what about Zorro?

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      Hmm no Tarzan? Or Lloyd Alexander? or C.S. Lewis? Strange. And - while I appreciate Jules Verne - does one list need 5+ of his books?

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      Tarzan is on there I thought. I think it’s one of the last ones on page 5.

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    • Kris
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      @Lara - I have seen the movie version of Captain Blood and it has a great premise! It was Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland's first film before they were stars.

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    • Kris
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      Also, Captain Blood is available for free online and ebook

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    • llevinso
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      Haha, yes I just realized that Kris and “bought” it on my Kindle!

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    • Kris
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      Yay! And, it is a trilogy as well. So if you really enjoy it there is more. lol

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    • Jerseygirl / Dame Constance (Oodles) Oxford-Whapdoodle, D.C., B.C., D.C.A.
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      I'm not a man, but I encourage the reading of H. Ryder Haggard books. They're wonderful!

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  • llevinso
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    While we’re on the topic of book lists...I came across this one today: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3672376/110-best-books-The-perfect-library.html
    It’s also a few years old but it’s 110 books you need in order to create the perfect library. What do you think?

    I do like how the list only allows for each author to have one book present.

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      I obviously am not a fan of Austen or Bronte, but I don't disagree with them being on the list. If they enlighten other people, so be it. Lord of the Rings being in the children's category with Babar and The Railway Children seems a bit odd to me. I tried to read it a few years ago and found it dry and boring (completely unlike the movies). Would you people categorize it as a children's book? Neuromancer was blech for me. I love sci-fi, I just didn't "get" this one I guess. I agree with all of the rest. The only one I might add would be The Art of War.

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      @BookSnacker: I definitely wouldn't call The Lord of the Rings a children's book, but I did read it for the first time in 3rd or 4th grade. It took a while, and I nearly stalled out once (I think the first half of the first book is the hardest part to get through...Tolkien didn't know exactly where he was going with the story at that point and it kinda shows), but it's been my favorite book ever since. Of course, I was already used to reading British fantasy from that era from reading through The Chronicles of Narnia a couple times and The Hobbit once. The LOTR movies are some of my favorites, but i don't think they're anywhere near as good as the books...they might have more action, but IMO much of the nobility is sucked out of the characters in favor of making them "more human" (read: whiny, reluctant, and tentative). But I'll get down off my soap box now before I really get off topic.

      I second BookSnacker's inclusion of Art of War on the list, and the sci-fi section should probably have something by Ray Bradbury...maybe Something Wicked This Way Comes.

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      Hmm. Thanks for that Joel! That is now on my TBR list and fairly high up :)

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    • Jerry M
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      I agree about moving Tolkien's trilogy out of children's. Shouldn't be there. And as much as I adore the movies they don't do full justice to the books.

      I would add Frank Herbert's Dune to the list of sci-fi.
      I would add The Federalist Papers to the list of the books that changed the world.
      I would also add Oliver Sachs' The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat or An Anthropoligist on Mars.
      I would add another Roman historian, Livy The Early History of Rome and Marco Polo's Travels.
      I would add some Joseph Campbell as well, maybe The Hero With A Thousand Faces
      someone in the comments of this article pointed out no Ayn Rand either.

      Hmmm I should start my own list as a hobby, see what I come up with. Jerry's top 10,000 books that you absolutely need!

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      Wouldn't it be fun to have an entire group dedicated to lists?

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    • BookSnacker
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      Alas, I forgot about Ms. Rand. The Fountainhead was my favorite, but I would put Atlas Shrugged on the list instead. I think it is more accessible to the general public.

      @llevinso- No! No group of lists! The TBR is thousands of books long already! Can you imagine how outrageous it would be with a group like that?

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    • Halo
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      I do love me some lists. Even if I hardly follow them, I do enjoy making them!

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    • llevinso
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      I know, making lists is fun. But I especially love finding random lists and seeing how I think they stack up, like that "manly" list above. I could just search on the interwebs for hours looking for lists like that.

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    • wiley
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      The reason I don't like lists is that my tastes are constantly in flux and those pesky authors keep writing wonderful new books. I look at a list I made 9 months ago and it seems antique. Then you guys and gals flummox up my list with all these intriguing titles and authors I've never heard of that turn out to be totally marvey.

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    • llevinso
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      That’s why the only list that I really keep, Wiley, is my TBR list. I never really take books off the list but boy do I add onto it!

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    • Halo
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      I never actually follow a list, I add to my lists, I love looking at lists and making lists but I find it difficult to actually stick to a list. I also have difficulty with group reads, I get distracted.

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      @Halo- That is why I am always reading at least 3 books at a time. If I am not particularly in the mood for that sort of book, I can switch to another and then come for a little while, just keep switching off until I make it through.

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    • Happy Traveler
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      Of course these lists always generate reactions, but I cannot help noticing so many glaring omissions. The list is eurocentric for sure, but even as a eurocentric list it is deficient. The poetry section is particularly lacking--where are Burns, Byron, Tennyson, Frost, Dickinson? Literary fiction omits such greats as Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Steinbeck, Capote. But the omission that gets me the most is the children's section. How could they possibly omit Alice's Adventures in Wonderland? I am dumbfounded, and can only wonder if the writer of the article is still gainfully employed after printing such nonsense.
      This idea of the perfect library reminds me of in Breakfast at Tiffany's, where the young narrator goes out and buys a complete set of the Modern Library. What a way to jump start your collection. I love their hardcovers with pictures of the authors on the front. But really, the perfect library is always going to be the one you cultivate yourself, a veritable fingerprint of all your likes and interests, intentions and inclinations. I love looking at people's bookshelves--no two collections are alike, and they invite you to relate the books to the owner while expanding your own horizons.

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    • Jerry M
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      Hmm that got me to think. The perfect library is the growing library.

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      @ Jerry, Something Wicked This Way Comes by Ray Bradbury is my all time favourite sci-fi/fantasy book. It definitely needs to be included.

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  • llevinso
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    Continuing on with our list craziness...here’s some of the favorite books of famous people: http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/40-favourite-books-of-famous-people

    I think it’s quite interesting. Some are kind of surprising...some aren’t ...

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      Congratulations. You've now ruined Michael Caine for me.

      Most of these are very predictable but points to Matt Damon for plugging his neighbor once again.

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      I like how they reference The Manic Street Preachers in the first sentence. This must be a hip place :)

      George Clooney doesn't seem like a War & Peace kind of guy.
      And when Chevy Chase chooses Moby Dick, I don't know if he's joking.
      Megan Fox choosing James Patterson- not surprising at all.

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      Yeah, Megan Fox was one of the ones I was talking about as not being surprising. Same with Donald Trump picking The Power of Positive Thinking.

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      Megan Fox reads? or did she just watch the movie?

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    • Annette N
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      Thanks for sharing, that was pretty interesting. :) Even though I don't know half of these "famous people", lol.

      OMG, Mourinho of all people really went with "The Bible"? LOL Drew Barrymore surprised me, though. I read "Man's Search for Meaning" in High School. Great Choice!
      Kate Moss and "The Beautiful and Damned", kind of ironic...

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      Oh, Annette, grats on the Editor label.

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      Same here--congrats! (Please excuse my ignorance here, but what superhuman feats does it take to receive the Editor badge?)

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    • Annette N
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      Thank you both! :D Although you really shouldn't encourage my addiction to editing. XD

      Haha, no feats at all. ;) You just need to edit a lot (e.g. combine books, edit titles, authors, etc.) You receive the badge when you get on the list of the Top 50 editors on Shelfari.
      Since my first language is German, I always find loads to edit (especially combining book pages, and correcting authors names with special characters "ä", "ü", "ö"). It's a highly addictive activity!

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  • Halo
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    An interesting article, for the Dickensians lurking among us:

    http://entertainment.time.com/2012/02/01/counting-down-dickens-greatest-novels-number-5-our-mutual-friend/

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  • llevinso
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    Okay folks, our next group read will start in March and, as per usual, I've already decided on the author. Here's your chance to guess who it may be! Remember, this time around it'll be MALE author. So...who do you think it is?

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    • Moisture Farmer
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      Balzac?

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      Dickens! Oh please, oh please!

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    • Jerry M
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      Robert Louis Stevenson.

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      FYI, I’m totally not going to respond to any of these guesses, but it sure is fun to hear what you all are thinking! ;)

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      Victor Hugo.

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      Dostoevsky?

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      Tolstoy?

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      Okay I guess it's time to give you all a hint: his birthday falls within the two month span of our read.

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    • sawcat

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      So, definitely not Dickens...

      Jack Keruoac?

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    • bookkaddict
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      How about Henry James?

      We need more clues!!

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      Haha okay, but this I'm afraid might give it away...his death also falls within those two months.

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    • Jerry M
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      So, he was like 2 months old when he died? How did he write? I don't get it.

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    • Bev

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      J D Salinger?

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    • wiley
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      Mark Twain

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    • BookSnacker
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      Oh! I hope it is Mark Twain. He is lovely to read. So easy too.

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    • bookkaddict

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      Enough! Whose it? OMG Jerry you are 2 funny....

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    • llevinso
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      Haha, how I love making you all squirm. Sorry, but you won't find out until next week when I post the voting thread.

      Aren't I evil? :)

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      Yes, you are evil.....

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  • Book Concierge
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    John Steinbeck or Ernest Hemingway

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    Bulwer-Lytton?

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      Love it! I try to hit the Lyttony at least once a month - nothing makes me laugh harder. Snorting, can't-catch-my-breath-laughing.

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    Feb 7 is the birthday of Charles Dickens. (Have you checked out the Google Doodle today?)

    Happy B-Day Charlie! (Or is it Chuck?)

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      I can’t imagine Charles Dickens going by any nickname at all. Especially Chuck!

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      Boz

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      Chaz

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      The Dickmeister! Too much?

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      No, he really used Boz as a nom de plume.

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      Chaz reminds me of Cher's son.

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    • Jerry M
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      Yeah, Lara, a tad over the top there lol.

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    I quite love that most of us are willing to give an author or a book a second try. I am willing, but I am not sure of the reason. Why are you guys amenable to giving them another chance?

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      This sounds like a good discussion in the making. You should make this a separate thread, I think it could get quite long.

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      Done :)

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    • BooknBlues
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      The other side of the discussion is authors you stopped reading at one book.

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    So, if you can tell by some of my other posts today, I’ve been perusing the Time Magazine website and I just came across an article entitled Top 10 Non-Dickens Books for Dickens Fans. I figured I should list the books here because I know we have our share of Dickens fans (and these are just some good old classics anyhow)!

    1. A Journal of the Plague Year by Daniel Defoe
    2. Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray
    3. North and South by Elizabeth Gaskell
    4. The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins
    5. The Way We Live Now by Anthony Trollope
    6. Daniel Deronda by George Eliot
    7. New Grub Street by George Gissing
    8. The Forsyte Saga by by John Galsworthy
    9. A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry (1995)
    10. Jack Maggs by Peter Carey (1997)

    Here’s the link to the actual article: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/02/05/top-10-non-dickens-books-for-dickens-fans/

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      Interesting list...I've only read "Woman in White" and "A Fine Balance". Liked both of them and I see why the article might think they would be appreciated by Dicken's fans.

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      I've read A Fine Balance and I think I would agree.
      I thought Vanity Fair was a high-school English assignment, but I have absolutely no memory of reading it. Hmmmm

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      I've read 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8. I own but haven't read 1 and 5.

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      hated Vanity Fair but love the Dickens I have read so far

      Woman in White Good mystery

      North and South So so

      Haven't read the others but did enjoy Moll Flanders by Defoe

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      read #2,3,4. Haven't read the rest but want to read A Fine Balance. Recently read Tono-Bungay by H. G. Wells. Wells was compared to Dickens in his writing and this one did capture that element of social class that Dickens so consistenly addresses.

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      I've read 5 of the 10. Think I'll try DeFoe. Don't remember if I've ever read any of his books.

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      I never knew Wells was compared to Dickens. I’m a huge Wells fans and until recently I really didn’t care for Dickens. Interesting...

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    Here's Time's list of the All-Time 100 Novels published since 1923: http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/?iid=ent-category-feature#all

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      Thanks for this lead, llevinso

      I had just enjoyed reading a Lev Grossman critique on 11/23/63
      I'll enjoy perusing this site

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      Yeah, it has a lot of interesting book-related articles. They're also doing a countdown (or just finished their countdown) of Dickens' 10 best books.

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    I just can't help gloating: I had the most fantastic book-hunting experience this morning at our local library book sale. In just two hours, I was able to obtain the following list of 45 used books. The price? $5 for the entire lot. That's 11.1 cents per book! And 34 are hardcover!

    A Passage to India by E.M. Forster
    A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce
    The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton
    An Ideal Husband by Oscar Wilde
    Beatrice and Virgil by Yann Martel
    The Caine Mutiny by Herman Wouk
    The Case of the Cautious Coquette and Other Stories by Erle Stanley Gardner
    Certain Women by Madeleine L'Engle
    The Chosen by Chaim Potok
    Cry, The Beloved Country by Alan Paton
    Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
    East of Eden/The Wayward Bus by John Steinbeck
    Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton
    The Gulag Archipelago by Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn
    The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
    Henry Esmond by William Makepeace Thackeray
    The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton
    How Green Was My Valley by Richard Llewellyn
    Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    Islands in the Stream by Ernest Hemingway
    Jamaica Inn by Daphne du Maurier
    The Jungle by Upton Sinclair
    Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
    The Last Tycoon by F. Scott Fitzgerald
    Light in August by William Faulkner
    Like Water for Chocolate by Laura Esquivel
    The Metamorphosis and Other Stories by Franz Kafka
    Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham
    One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
    Open House by Elizabeth Berg
    The Pickwick Papers by Charles Dickens
    The Possessed by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
    The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran
    The Queen of the Big Time by Adriana Trigiani
    Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier
    The Road by Cormac McCarthy
    Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence
    Swann's Way by Marcel Proust
    Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald
    This Side of Paradise by F. Scott Fitzgerald
    The Three Daughters of Madame Liang by Pearl S. Buck
    Twice 22 (Collected Short Stories) by Ray Bradbury
    Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray
    Women in Love by D.H. Lawrence
    The Yearling by Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings

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    • Jerry M
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      Whoah. Now that is a hunter's dream. Did you take your picture with your foot over the pile of books?

      The Chosen looks cool, my son had to read that for his English class and I've been looking for a good used copy (patience is a book hunter's best friend) but found his other work, The Promise. Also let me know how you like Earl Stanley Gardner. I'm curious to see how he is since he is famous for the Perry Mason stories and my mom loved watching that show on tv when I was a wee lad. Very cool, Brent, well done.

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    • Mary B
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      how cheap can you get the extra bookcase to hold all of them? ;)

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    • Book Concierge
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      That is some haul!

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    • wiley
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      I really liked your D. H. Lawrence selections when I read them back in the Stone Age before you were born, what nice memeories. Oooh and The Gulag Archipelago....did you snag all 4 volumes?

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      Holy cow! And I think I do good at my friends of the library sale!

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      @Wiley: Yes, and the Lawrence volumes are a set of three matching hardbacks. Not 100% sure on the Gulag, but it's quite thick, so I suppose it's the whole thing.

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      I have the Gulag volumes. But I have 3 quite thick volumes, there's a 4th? Oh, maybe my book hunting days aren't quite over. Thank you, Wiley.

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      Well done! (grinds teeth with envy - friendly, supportive, way-to-go! envy...)

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      Oh. My. God. *faints* I wish that would happen to me! Argh, I'm jealous. What a great deal! Congrats! :D

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      I looked it up, there are only three, but it seems to me that one of the volumes has 2 books in it. I read it back in the late 70's.

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      I wonder how it reads now, now that communism and even what came after communism in Russia is dead.

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    Well I did something today that I should have done a long time ago. I finally became a member of The Orgeon Shakespeare Festival. I chose the lowest level, the sustainer, but I get ticket discounts and a 10% discount at the big gift shop (where I buy a bulk of my Arden Shakespeares) and better refund and exchange privileges (which I have rarely used. Also they are offering a 2 for 1 sale this month, so I am automatically a member for next year as well. Even though I am giving only a small amount, it does feel nice to give back to something that has given so much to me over the years. It's easy to argue that they've already got a lot out of me but this seems to make it official and that's pretty cool to me.

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      It is indeed official now--Jerry is totally, amazingly, mind-blowingly cool.

      (I don't suppose there are any extra tickets that would, you know, just happen to come with the deal? Any you might be willing to bestow on certain endearing members of online book groups? Any at all?) :-)

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      I have often considered this, but it is almost impossible for me to get down there during the season...when I retire....if I'm not too old to drive!

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      It's worth it Wiley. And Brent, if you can get out here, we may be able to work out a deal, my new car does need a good wash...I am planning on the first week in August, which is my birthday. I've spent many birthdays up there (that's usually when my old high school group would go) so it will feel like a home away from home. Only problem, how to see all the plays in that week. They are doing 4 Shakes. plays, Troilus and Cressida, Henry V, As You Like It, Romeo and Juliet as well as a mash up of a Shakespeare, The Merry Wives of Windsor, Iowa. They are doing an adaption of a Chinese fable, The White Snake, and adaption of a Marx Brothers film, Animal Crackers (really want to see that one), a Checkov play, The Seagull and a new debut, Medea/MacBeth/Cinderella where they play all three stories at once (and they say it works so I really want to see that one). Oy.

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      Well I bought my tickets for this season. My wife wanted to go at the beginning of August, so I will be up there on my birthday (which I've done before). But the sad thing about that is, I won't be able to see all I want to see because of scheduling conflicts. Oh well, can't get everything all the time. I will be seeing:
      Animal Crackers- an adaption of the Marxx Brothers movie (can't wait to see that one- I love the Marxx Brothers)
      All the Way- a new play about Lyndon B. Johnson's first year in office and it looks interesting
      Medea/MacBeth/Cinderella- a play with three plays running concurrently. The actors last year said they had read the script and it works surprisingly well. I really want to see this one.
      Henry V- well, it's Shakespeare so once more unto the breach...
      Merry Wives of Windsor, Iowa. It's a spinoff from the Shakespeare play which I hope works. They did a Tartuffe play this way last year that was hilarious, so I am hoping this one works as well.

      The ones I won't be able to see are As You Like It (grumbles) and Romeo and Juliet (but I've seen it so many times up there...), Troilus and Cressida (grumbles again).

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      Sounds like you'll be seeing some great theatre. I will join you in the "pouty corner" when you miss As You Like It and troilus and Cressida ...


      By the way ... Skylight Opera Theatre (now known as Skylight Music Theatre) did Animal Crackers a few years ago. Great fun! I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself!

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      Animal Crackers will be the first night I get up there, so it should be a good start for me.

      Next year I shall have to coordinate a little better. They are showing 3 world premieres, a US premier, My Fair Lady, A Streetcar Named Desire, a play by August Wilson, a favorite of mine, and then Taming of the Shrew, King Lear, Cymbeline and Midsummer Night's Dream.

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      Wow ... that's quite a great line-up!

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      I know, I may have to plan two trips up there, I don't think my wife would care to spend almost a whole week up there (I would but not her). Maybe one in the spring and one in the fall.

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      With a line up like that...I’m kind of wanting to move to Oregon...

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    • Michelle G
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      Jerry, You should do spots for NPR during their membership drives. :)
      Sounds like you made a good investment!

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      I'd do it if it paid for my tickets :) Then I would have more money to spend on books.

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      Llevinso, look into American Players Theatre. It's our closest alternative. Also note Chicago Shakespeare Theatre is doing theatre in the park this year.

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    Sorry that I've been a bit absent for the last few days. It was my birthday this weekend and I had a lot of good eating to participate in and also a little drinking. It was a good time. But I'm back now for my admin duties! Hope you all had a great weekend too :)

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      Well happy birthday. For your present, I decided to not stage a coup while you were gone. Besides, it would have been just me and Brent anyway.

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      Why thank you...I guess...

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    • Jerry M
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      Hey, no problem.

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      Yeah, forgoing a coup is pretty easy, when it comes right down to it.

      Happy birthday--I hope you had a great time!

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      Happy Birthday waaaaay late!

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    Here's an interesting article brought to us from group member Mark K: http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/03/a-slow-books-manifesto/254884/#.T3FEAiR8uOg.facebook

    He found it over at The Atlantic. Essentially it's telling us all what we already know, to read more classics! :)

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      I've advocated that for awhile now, at least to myself. I've been able to do just what the article suggests this year and turn the television off more often and my reading rate has doubled. I read 32 books last year and I am on pace for 60-70 books this year. I did like the quote at the end of the article by Brodsky: "Though we can condemn ... the persecution of writers, acts of censorship, the burning of books, we are powerless when it comes to [the worst crime against literature]: that of not reading the books. For that ... a person pays with his whole life; ... a nation ... pays with its history."

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      I lived for many years with neither tv nor radio, so I guess I watch more tv than I used to, but my main hobby is reading and I often would turn the tv off if others did not want to watch it.

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      We only have antenna TV so THAT certainly doesn't get in the way! We're considering a video membership (netflix/hulu/amazon) but I really don't feel that I'm missing much. We just spent a week at my parents' where the TV is usually on (with over 600 channels) and it seemed to mainly be a time suck. Perhaps, too, my 'all-or-nothing' personality fears the slippery slope of 'Real Wives' addiction...ha.
      Great link, llevinso!

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    So I’m pretty excited...this Sunday my mother and I went to dinner and we decided to go out in what is to be my new neighborhood. Well, there is this really nice little strip of restaurants not far from my new apartment and on this block there is this really cute independent book store! It was closed when we walked by so I couldn’t go inside but we looked in the window and they had all sorts of books that were right up my alley, and what looked like a whole nice section of feminist titles too. And they even serve some local craft beers, yum! I’ve been looking for a nice indie book store and my neighborhood now is too commercial so we just have the Barnes & Noble so this will be a nice change of pace.

    Anyway, just thought I’d share! It’s called The Book Cellar for anyone in the Chicago/Lincoln Square area.

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      I like Lincoln Square. Moving soon?

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      June 30th is the big day!

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      Exciting! I have to decide by then if I'm staying or going at my current apt. We shall see.

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      What neighborhood do you reside in currently Mary?

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      I'm in Evanston right off of the Main Street station(s).

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      That's where my family lives! (off the Noyes stop)

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      Right by Northwestern?

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      Yeah except they're west of the tracks by Ridge. My mom works for Northwestern actually.

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    I have a great used bookstore right near my house called Turn The Page Again. I have gone in there looking for something specific and found it. I never walk out of there empty handed. And they have a great classics section. They are constantly getting donations so they always have great stuff.

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      That's my problem, I can never go into a bookstore without coming out with my hands full of books. Gets me into trouble all the time at home.

      There is one in my area, sorta, it's a 20 minute drive into the town next to mine (which is the definition of 'my area' over here) called Berkshire Books. But one of my favorite indie SF/F bookstores is in Berkely CA called Dark Carnival. My head of spinning with all the new titles I've found in there. But my all-time favorite indie store is in San Francisco called Green Apple. It's a hodgepodge of rooms off of other rooms. Whenever a business next to them closes up, they try to buy the space and then grow into it.

      It's amazing how comforting it is to walk through a used book store with a ton of books all around you.

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    My TBR pile just keeps growing!

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      Get have that checked out.

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      It's definitely a benign growth--don't worry. :-)

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      Ha! My husband doesn't think so. I have to hide my new purchases from him. He counters with his collection of record albums and guitars.

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      I know, I keep saying that I'm going to try to stop adding to my TBR for at least a little while...but then another book catches my eye and...well you know the rest!

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    Reading The Razors Edge and loving it. Next up is A Child in Time which I just got in the mail.

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    I'm probably the last to know this, but I just saw the trailer for a remake of Tolstoy's "Anna Karenina", coming out in November. Here, watch it:

    http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/4/title/tt1781769/#lb-vi675914265

    Any thoughts?

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      I personally think Keira Knightely is a mediocre actress. I won't go see it just because she is in it.

      Shame really as I really like Jude Law.

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      I caught this last week. I swear it looks like a Baz Luhrmann production - overwrought, much? The trailer alone gives me a headache and I'll be amazed if Kostya Levin's story gets any play at all.
      And ditto on Keira Knightley - meh.

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      For myself, I suppose I don't outright mind that they put Keira in the title role; still, I think it would have been a lot better if they used someone like Kate Beckinsale instead.

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      I will have to watch the trailer.
      BTW, have any of you seen the trailer for Gatsby will Leo Dicaprio??? I am not sure what I think about it. Different vibe than I was expecting (music, etc.).

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      Yes, Gatsby looks very different. I suppose "different" is what new films are all about--to help us see stories in a new light--but it might be too much. I suppose we'll have to wait until December to decide for certain...

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      MF, that is what I am thinking.

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      Re: Gatsby --- it's done by Baz Lurhman ---- he's the guy who re-made Romeo and Juliet in a similar manner.

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    In honor of the 4th of July...Flavorwire's ultra-patriotic American reading list: http://www.flavorwire.com/305887/10-quintessentially-american-novels#more-305887

    East of Eden by John Steinbeck
    Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
    How the Garcia Girls Lost Their Accents by Julia Alvarez
    On the Road by Jack Kerouac
    Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson
    Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
    The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon
    My Antonia by Willa Cather
    Beloved by Toni Morrison
    The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald

    So what do you all think? Is this the ultimate patriotic list of American novels? What’s missing (off the top of my head I’m thinking To Kill A Mockingbird immediately)?

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      How about some Mark Twain? Either Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn should be represented, I think.

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      I would have suggested The Grapes of Wrath instead of East of Eden, but that's probably because I haven't yet read the latter.

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      I like this list! I've either read them or wanna read them!

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      I've not read Julia Alvarez, I have her In the Time of the Butterflies on my shelf, but I am glad she was listed. The story of America is often the story of the immigrant, which sadly, seems to be in the process of being drowned out lately.

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      I agree with the comments above, and want to add Gone with the Wind and the Little House books. I want something Revvy War too, but everything I'm coming up with is non-fiction, or poetry at best.

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      @Megan: What about Johnny Tremain?

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      'My Antonia' is wonderful, one of my favorites. Thanks for the list, I've got a few on there that I need to read now!

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      I do think it is a good list but the main problem is 10 books is just far too few.

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      I think 100 books would be too few. It is always interesting to see what gets put on the list as well as what is left off. But I agree that 10 is way too few a number to really discuss.

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    Bastille Day is tomorrow (July 14th) everyone! I don’t know if we have any members living in France but if so Happy la Fete Nationale! Do people in Canada celebrate this as well? I actually have no idea, though I know some Canadians speak French...

    Anyway, I found this fun list on Flavorwire entitled “An Essential French Lit Reading List for Bastille Day.” So obviously I had to share it here: http://www.flavorwire.com/308725/an-essential-french-lit-reading-list-for-bastille-day

    And the list goes:

    The Stranger by Albert Camus
    The Lover by Marguerite Duras
    The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupery
    Les Miserables by Victor Hugp
    Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert
    The Complete Claudine by Colette
    The Red and the Black by Stendhal
    The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
    The Human Comedy by Balzac
    Remembrance of Things Past by Marcel Proust

    And 10 more for overachievers (that would probably be us!):

    Our Lady of the Flowers by Jean Genet
    Journey to the End of the Night by Louis-Ferdinand Celine
    Germinal by Emile Zola
    Candide by Voltaire
    Bel-Ami by Guy de Maupassant
    The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir
    Dangerous Liasons by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos
    Twenty Thousands Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne
    Man’s Fate by Andre Malraux
    Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre

    Comments time!! :)

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    • Jerry M
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      I notice that Flavorwire likes their list of 10.

      I've read The Stranger and The Plague by Camus, great existentialist writing there. I haven't read Les Mis but I saw the musical so I have my foot in the door (I've also read Hunchback and Hugo is a long-winded but good writer). I've not read Madame Bovary yet, but I have read Sentimental Education by Flaubert. But I have read The Red and the Black but a long time ago. I thought I read The Count but found out it was an abridged version so I can't count it. And I have read Swann's Way, the first part of Rememberance of Things Past by Proust. I do like Proust.

      I haven't read Journey to the End of the Night by Celine but I have read his Guingol's Band. Very interesting writer. I wonder if Flavorwire has added Celine on their own or if the French are starting to embrace him again. He was a Nazi collaborator during the war and for decades his works were not even to be mentioned, but the French are slowly starting to thaw on Celine from what I heard a few years ago. I've not read Being and Nothingness by Sartre but I've read a few of his plays including his famous No Exit.

      I would have thought Voltaire would have been in the first list. Also, most of this list are classical works. Makes me think non-French put this together as there don't seem to be contemporary writers on here. That is something I would like to learn, who the writers are today that are good.

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      I too was surprised that Candide wasn't on the first list, or any Verne for that matter. But haha! I just started reading Madame Bovary so somewhere in my subconscious I must have known it was about to be Bastille Day ;)

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      Maybe you are a closet Frenchwoman.

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      Talk about overachievers--they put La Comèdie Humaine on the list in its entirety? It's a multi-volume effort composed of at least 91 finished works! That said, I do very much like Balzac and have read Pere Goriot, which is one of those 91.

      In all, I've read six of the twenty (not counting the partial reading of The Human Comedy). Great--now I feel like an illiterate loser.* :-)

      *For sake of clarification, I must point out that the two phenomena of illiteracy and loser-dom are in no way synonymous.

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      Well --- I've only read 3 on the list of 20 so that makes me more of a loser and less of a literati :-D

      I read The Little Prince, Madame Bovary (but in college way back when) and The Red and the Black. I didn't really care for any of them.

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      Brent, since I've not read too many of those listed, but other works by those authors, that must make me a literate loser :)

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      Wow - having majored in French finally pays off! Well, not monetarily, that's a given - but it means I've read 10 of the 20. (That, and I can pronounce 'croissant' correctly....)

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      I have only read 3.01 - The Little Prince, Madame Bovary, Dangerous Liasons and Old Goriot (am I right in thinking this is one of the volumes which makes up The Human Comedy by Balzac?)

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      Yes, that's right, Yvonnep23. And it's a very good volume too, IMO. :-)

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      Wow Brent, you're right. Basically they want you to read everything Balzac wrote. I don't think I have time for that, though I'd like to give something of hise a try at some point...

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      I've only read half of those. I may have to read the others before they take away my Francophile badge.

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    Ran across this and thought it was pretty cool. I've had to act scenes from Shakespeare when I was in high school but I never had them down cold like this kid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL6DQZYPBeU

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      Oh, man, that was AWESOME! He actually understood what he was saying! :)

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    Heads up group members! The next group read is going to go a little differently. So keep an eye out for a thread to pop up soon about it because if you snooze, you lose, as they saying goes ;)

    More to come later!!

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    Surfing the interwebs I found all these great retro library posters trying to get kids to read more books: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vblibrary/4479446525/in/set-72157623618957199

    I especially like the kitty one...

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      Not sure how the woman tied to a chair is supposed to encourage a child to read, but whatever.... ;)
      I love the kitty and the 'Cruise through a Book' one. What a fun share, thanks!

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    As many of you probably heard, Gore Vidal passed away the other day. In honor of his passing, Flavorwire compiled a list of great hilarious quotes from him: http://www.flavorwire.com/314405/the-quotable-gore-vidal-20-of-his-best-zingers#more-314405

    Here they are:

    1. “It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.”
    2. 2. “Style is knowing who you are, what you want to say and not giving a damn.”
    3. “First coffee, then a bowel movement. Then the Muse joins me.” – from The Paris Review Interviews: Writers at Work, interview by Gerald Clarke, 1974
    4. “Write what you know will always be excellent advice for those who ought not to write at all.” – from The Second American Revolution, 1983
    5. “…American society, literary or lay, tends to be humorless. What other culture could have produced someone like [Ernest] Hemingway and not seen the joke?” – from United States – Essays 1952-1992
    6. “To speak today of a famous novelist is like speaking of a famous cabinetmaker or speedboat designer. Adjective is inappropriate to noun.” – from Screening History
    7. “The more money an American accumulates the less interesting he himself becomes.” – from Homage to Daniel Shays: Collected Essays
    8. “Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies.” – from The Sunday Times Magazine, 1973
    9. “Andy Warhol is the only genius I’ve ever known with an I.Q. of 60″?
    10. “I am at heart a propagandist, a tremendous hater, a tiresome nag, complacently positive that there is no human problem which could not be solved if people would simply do as I advise.” – from Homage to Daniel Shays: Collected Essays, 1972
    11. “The four most beautiful words in our common language: I told you so.”
    12. “Sex is. There is nothing more to be done about it. Sex builds no roads, writes no novels, and sex certainly gives no meaning to anything in life but itself.”
    13. “You hear all this whining going on, ‘Where are our great writers?’ The thing I might feel doleful about is: Where are the readers?” – from Esquire, 2008
    14. “Never pass up a chance to have sex or appear on television.”
    15. “A narcissist is someone better looking than you are.” – from The New York Times, 1981
    16. “History is nothing but gossip about the past, with the hope that it might be true.” – from Butt, 2007
    17. “The United States was founded by the brightest people in the country — and we haven’t seen them since.” – from Matters of Fact and Fiction: Essays 1973 – 1976
    18. “Celebrities are invariably celebrity-mad, just as liars always believe liars.” – from Palimpsest: A Memoir
    19. “I do many different things rather better than most people do one thing.” – from The Paris Review Interviews: Writers at Work, interview by Gerald Clarke, 1974
    20. “The usual question everybody asks now is: What are you proudest of, Mr. Vidal, of all your great achievements? To which I answer: ‘Despite intense provocations over the course of what is becoming a rather long life, I have never killed anybody. That is my greatest achievement.’ A little negative maybe, but that’s it.” – from Vanity Fair, 2009

    I especially like the last one. I consider it one of my great achievements as well ;)

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      ...As far as we know, Lara :)

      I like the Andy Warhol quote.

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      #13! (Present company unequivocally excepted, natch.)

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      Totally agree Amester.

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    I am reading The Age of Innocence and it has a wonderful intro written by Vidal. He considered Wharton to be one of the three greatest writers of all time.

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      I'm officially curious - who are the other two?

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  • Sally S
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    He says that he won't go into it, but hints that Henry Jmes was one. BTW, I finished the book and heartily concur with his sentiments.

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  • llevinso
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    This is kind of fun. I found this blog that did a collection called "10 Classic Novel Covers in 8-Bit Form." Thought I’d share: http://slacktory.com/2012/08/10-classic-novel-covers-in-8-bit-form/

    (I like Frankenstein the best)

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    • Jerry M
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      Those are cool. I would like to do that lol. I think Lolita is pretty striking. Reminds me of the old computer game Zork.

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    • llevinso
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      Lolita was my second favorite. It actually creeped me out!

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    I posted this over on Slippery Fish Island and thought I would post it here. This can't be real, the punch line has to be coming in about a day. Right?

    http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/elderly-woman-ruins-19th-century-fresco-restoration-attempt-191155838--abc-news-topstories.html

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    • Book Concierge
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      Oh my stars!

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    • Jerry M
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      I think this was the first time I ever gasped while reading an online news article.

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    • llevinso
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      Yeah I came across that article yesterday on Yahoo. I think it's totally for real.

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    • Joel M
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      Reminds me of the movie where Mr. Bean ruins and then tries to fix Whistler's Mother

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    • Book Concierge
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      Absolutely real. It was on the Today Show this morning. Makes me cringe to think of it. How can someone be SOooo clueless?

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    • Amester
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      Oh, man. Looking at that was physically painful. I think I need a Tums....

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  • Jerry M
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    As some of you know, Halo and I started a group called Slippery Fish Island. We modeled it after this group (since we think this group is so awesome) but our focus is probably more towards contemporary works, book, film and music. Whatever we think is good and worth sharing, debating and joking about, we like it over there. We also just had our first year anniversary, we started it in August 2011. So I thought I would let those who aren't aware that they are welcome to come over and join in the mayhem, er, jovialities. Think of it this way, everyone over here makes insightful, deep comments, and when the Prozac wears off they move over to our site :)

    Slippery Fish Island
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/87776/about

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    • Erika M
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      Worked in reverse for me. I came here from the asylum Island.

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    • Jerry M
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      But the guys in the white suits will be here shortly...:)

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    • Erika M
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      Rats!! Foiled again!!

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  • Sally S
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    Jerry, Is your group open to anyone?
    BTW, my son just gave me his kindle so I guess that I'll have to cave in to the pressure and try reading like the rest of you techies. I might enjoy it since I am having difficulty with my near vision.

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    • Jerry M
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      Yes, it is open to anyone who loves to gab :) We have gabbers over there. And I am not a techie, I use the old fashion book system myself.

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    • Amester
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      Same here, Sally - if anyone were to ask me if I like kindling, I'd have to say, 'I don't know, I've never Kindled.' (with apologies to Rudyard)

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    • Erika M
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      I didn't think I would like or use a Kindle until I got one as a present. OK, it was actually a present for my mother, but I sort of absconded with it! (She got another one the next Christmas, so it really worked out for the best.) Now I read ebooks and physical books, whichever I can get cheaper. My mom likes that she can make the font larger and not have to wear her reading glasses. I tease her that she has one word per page!

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    FYI for newcomers, all the past discussions of our group reads are still open and can be discussed at any time. I'll be posting later this week a link to all the book discussions we've already done for anyone that's interested :)

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    For all the newcomers to this group as of late (and the old farts who just would like to revisit these things from time to time), I figured I’d gather together a list of all the books we’ve already read for our Group Reads and also the links to their discussion threads. That way if you also read the book at some point you can participate in the discussion whenever you like!

    So here they are, in order of when we started (back in January-February 2011) to last month:

    Persuasion by Jane Austen (Jan-Feb 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/324670/-b-Jan-Feb-Group-Discussion-b-~Persuasion-by-Jane-Austen?showall=true#8414238

    Tess of the d’Ubervilles by Thomas Hardy (March-April 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/348908/Tess-of-the-DUbervilles-Discussion-Questions?showall=true#7581844

    The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton (May-June 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/366929/HOUSE-OF-MIRTH-by-Edith-Wharton-(Discussion-Questions)?showall=true#8140712

    The Time Machine by H.G. Wells (July-August 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/381898/August-Group-Read-b-The-Time-Machine-b-by-H-G-Wells-Discussion-Q?showall=true#8795938

    Romola by George Elliot (Sept-Oct 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/398114/ROMOLA-by-George-Eliot-(Reviews-and-Discussion)?showall=true#9118066

    Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald (Nov-Dec 2011)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/411234/-b-Nov-Dec-Group-Read-Discussion-b-~Tender-is-the-Night?showall=true#9533944

    Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte (Jan-Feb 2012)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/422892/-b-Jan-Feb-read-Wuthering-Heights-b-Discussion-Questions?showall=true#9984695

    Othello by William Shakespeare (March-April 2012)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/435762/-b-MAR-APRIL-GROUP-READ--OTHELLO-DISCUSSION-QUESTIONS-b-?showall=true#10481519

    Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston (May-June 2012)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/447300/Discussion-Q-i-b-Their-Eyes-Were-Watching-God-b-i-?showall=true#10877362

    The Mysterious Island by Jules Verne (July-August 2012)
    http://www.shelfari.com/groups/10492/discussions/457148/-b-July-Aug-Group-Discussion-~-The-Mysterious-Island-b-?showall=true#11281251


    ***Each time a new “Carriage House” thread is created this list will be the first reply posted (with updates) so we can all keep track :)

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    • Catherine J
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      Thank you for this list. Sometimes it's hard to remember all the wonderful books that have been discussed.

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    • llevinso
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      You are very welcome. I had been meaning to do this for a long time but Jerry gave me a nudge ;)

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    • Sally S

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      Thanks. I want to finish the book before I enter the discussion, though. Afraid of spoilers, I guess.

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    • Jerry M
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      I prefer the term adgitator over nudger. Has a more dignified air to it (and more times the air around me is the only thing dignified).

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  • llevinso
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    A note about adding books to the Group Shelf:

    Please feel free to add as many books as you’d like, though please use some discretion, this is a classics group after all. However, when adding the books to the shelf please place them in the “We’ve Read” section of the shelf. I save the “We’re Reading” section only for whatever book we happen to be reading as a group. So right now the only book in there is Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein.

    Thank you for your cooperation! :)

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  • Erika M
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    Honest question...

    What qualifies a book as a classic? For example, I am currently reading The Cider House Rules by John Irving. Is that a classic?

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      It's a bit of a blurred line between "literary fiction" (which CHR would certainly qualify as) and "classic".

      Both, I think have to have thematic elements deep enough for serious literary critique, but I would contend a classic has to endure across at least a couple of generations.

      Sometimes mass market fiction will need the interest of several generations before it's deemed worthy of serious study. (Dickens leaps to mind, and some Wilkie Collins. Steven King might land in that camp, I suspect.) Other works that seem deep in their time can just seem pretentious and fade away in future years. I doubt CHR will fall into that camp, but not enough time has passed to be sure.

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    • Erika M
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      Thank you, tealady. I think that might have been the clearest definition I've heard.

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    • Care B
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      Generally, we follow the same hundred year rule that Lara used when she asked for nominations for books for the monthly group read, which also fits with Tealadytoo's definition of a book that has endured across at least a couple of generations. Books which have the literary quality and elements, but have been loved for only about half that time, such as say, To Kill a Mockingbird, we label as Modern Classics-those can also be put on the shelf, as we occasionally do those as group reads.

      Cider House Rules is definitely not a classic; it would be considered a work of literary fiction, a well-written book with many fine elements, but not one which has at this point stood that crucial test of time. It may yet, but only time will tell.

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    I know that A Lesson Before Dying by Earnest Gaines is considered a modern day classic.

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    • Jerry M
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      Since I've been active in these threads, I've learned to shy away from the term 'modern day classic' because I've seen a lot of stuff with that label that end up being really a fad. I do believe that you can peg some works almost from the start as classic potential but there are some that are riding the crest of fame and when they crash, that's it for them. I'm gonna have to sit down and figure out all these terms and what they mean to me one of these days.

      I don't know that name, Earnest Gaines, when did he write? Or is he still around?

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    • Care B
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      No, this is still literary fiction. Far, far too early to call this 1993 release a classic. Time is a crucial element is creating a classic. A book must be able to speak across several economic cycles, war and peace cycles, societal value shifts, political cycles, etc... No matter how fantastic the writing, how many discussion elements the book evokes, it must continue to appeal to succeeding generations for the book to endure as a classic.

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    • Erika M
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      So, do Faulkner and Fitzgerald qualify, even though some of their works may fall just short of the 100 year rule? Or would they still be too new?

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    • Jerry M
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      They are usually classified into the modern classics group along with Hemingway, Steinbeck, Carson McCullers, Flannery O'Connor, Harper Lee, etc.

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    • Erika M
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      Ok. Glad I checked.

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    • Care B
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      Remember, those works that fall within the fifty to one hundred year time frame and meet the other literary requirements, and thus meet the definition of Modern Classic can also be put on the group shelf. If you have a question, just ask Lara, as she is the one who handles the shelf.

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    • llevinso
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      Yes, never worry about asking me questions around here Erika. I'm generally known as pretty friendly, though very sarcastic at times :)

      I'd never get upset about modern classics being on the shelf but I've gone through it before (and thankfully this hasn't happened recently) and people have put stuff on there that was just published like a year or two ago. That's simply what I meant about being discerning. I know some people join a group and like to add all their books to the group shelf but I don't think a book like say, 50 Shades of Grey, needs to be on here. That happens I might flip out a bit ;)

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    • Erika M
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      Well, you don't have to worry about 50 Shades. I never finished the first book! LOL! Just wanted to clarify the cut off. Besides, I usually forget to add books to group shelves. :-D

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