leegee
- Wednesday, December 19 2007
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Really, my dislike is based on the childish "literary style," and the complete unoriginality of the ideas. It's only saving grace is that it introduced more people into the idea of questioning the authority of the Canon, and of institutional history.
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LC
- Friday, April 4 2008
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that's true. thank you for pointing that out!!!
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Peter C
- Saturday, February 2 2008
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Brown may well be an over-hyped writer, but he wasn't being blasphemous when he wrote DA VINCI CODE. He was trying to make a buck. That makes him American. Get over it, y'all.
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LC
- Friday, April 4 2008
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i disagree, but only in part. you are most probably right about the money, but nobody can say bad things about God and not believe it at least a little bit.
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...nobody can say bad things about God and not believe it at least a little bit.
I don't mind having this discussion. I have said plenty of bad things about G-d: any omnisicient, omnipotent, omnipresent entity which can allow six million people to be slaughtered has to answer a few questions, as far as I am concerned. It recalls the old Phonecian story of Job, don't you think? How could G-d do that to a man and his family?
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LC
- Saturday, April 5 2008
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God doesn't have to answer questions from humans BECAUSE he's omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, although He often does. bad things come about because humans disobey and don't listen to God. this is in the case of adolf hitler, and the USA. did you know that america could have stopped at least half of the Jews from being killed??? and we refused. are we a godly nation or what??? in the case of job, God didn't do it, satan did. God allowed him to do all those terrible things to test job, and job turned out the better for it. he actually ended up with more blessings because he stood firm and would not curse God. if we all were humble like job, do you suppose we would be better off too??? i do think that blaming God for the tragedies man creates is a little misplaced.
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leegee
- Saturday, April 5 2008
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If we are going to continue this discussion, would you mind captialising and adding line breaks as appropriate? It make it much easier to read, and I have terrible sight.
G-d does not have to ansewr questions? Perhaps not: it was a figure of speach, my intended implication being to question the nature of G-d. Why would any omnipresent, omniscient entity allow such slaughter? Either he is not very compassionate, in which case it is very hard to love Him, love being compassion; or He could not stop it, meaning he is not omniscient, omnipresnt, and all powerful, and thus not G-d as described in the scripture.
Several people have told me that Job was better off after G-d "allowed" Job's family to be murdered: do you have a wife, sons and daughters? Would you be grateful to a anyone who murdered them? Of course you would not. No human would.
Job is not a traditional Hebrew story: this is not the G-d of Israel, it's the god of the Phonecians. Why the book is in the Bible, I'd dearly like to know, because it is the only Hebrew book that mentions Saton, The Adversary, and really does paint an image of at best impotent diety, and at worst, one that contradicts everything I wish to worship.
As for the USA and Nazi Germany - yes, I was aware of that: you live in a complex country, but I am not sure that is relevant.
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LC
- Sunday, April 6 2008
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God gave humans choice, and our misuse of that free will brings crime and tragedy. God is always telling us the right things to do through the Holy Spirit, aka conscience, and we can choose not to listen. God "allows" slaughter because if He forced us to do His will, He would not be good or compassionate. The innocent people that suffer from the wrong decisions of others will not suffer at the hands of God in that instance. It is hard for humans to love God because we often feel that He is unjust, cruel, or uncaring. But who are we to know the nature of God??? Does He not state clearly in the Bible who and what He is??? God is love. That's all there is to it. And don't forget that Jesus wept over the very people who crucified Him, and asked His Father to forgive them. If that's not love, what is???
I did not say that Job was grateful to God for allowing Satan to test him. But Job 1:20-22 does say that Job worshiped God, didn't sin or charge God foolishly, and blessed the name of the Lord after all the bad things happened to him.
Actually, this is the true God of Israel speaking in Job. In Job 38:4 the Lord talks about laying the foundations of the earth. Who could get away with saying that but God??? He is the Creator, so He alone can speak of creating the earth.
Everyone--including I--has at some point asked the question, "Why does God allow suffering???" I don't have all the answers, and I hope you do not think of me as a wisecracking child who does not know suffering and is just replying with false confidence from no base.
This is one way I look at it. Questioning God's motives is not generally a wise idea. If we are being called to be like God, our job is to love unconditionally and pray unceasingly for those who suffer and those who inflict suffering. Both are precious children of God.
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I have never read the book , never heard anybody discuss about it but the sight of its name at the book store made me hate it and now i do not think i would want to read it. What do you think? Shouold i or not but i do not think i will like it.
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LC
- Sunday, April 13 2008
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honestly, there are better things to read out there. i suggest Francine Rivers, Karen Kingsbury, Ted Dekker, Frank Peretti...any of those would be great reading. don't waste your time on the da vinci code.
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I'm a Christian too, and I found The Da Vinci Code to be a quick entertaining read and that's about it. Come on folks, it's fiction! Fiction is fiction, meaning it's not true, it's made up. How is something not true, made up, and fictional blasphemous?
You know what I find blasphemous? All those Left Behind books that are supposedly Biblical, but aren't. They are bad theology and deserve to be called fiction, but for some reason, they aren't! That makes me sick to my stomach!
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Anything that denies the deity of Jesus is blasphemy. Also many, many people are reading it as the truth and not as fiction. All that aside, it is a poorly written novel. The characters are weak; the story line is something from a Scooby Doo episode that makes off the wall conclusions and ridiculous assumptions. It lacked a cohesive thread to tie all these ridiculous loose ends together.
The Left Behind books are sold as fiction and it is based on theology. But there are so many different theologies to the end times and there is no conclusive proof that any of them are correct or incorrect. It is based on the theology of two men. It is not blasphemy since it does not deny the deity of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
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LC,
I ABSOLUTELY agree with you!! I cannot fathom WHY everyone went on & on & on about this book. Hated the book, hated the movie. How anyone can talk about Jesus in such a manner is beyond me.
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