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    Our December 2012 group discussion is on Truman Capote's A Christmas Memory

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    1. Did you find the relationship between the seven-year-old Buddy and the sixty-something Sook believable? How could they truly be friends which such a large age difference between them.

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      You need to understand the dynamics of the small town South at that time. Yes indeed, the close, loving friendship between a young lonely boy and an older child-like spinster like Miss Sook is very believable. This is a perfect Christmas book! Have you read 'A Thanksgiving Visitor'? It too is wonderful. Merry Christmas to you all!

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      Yes, I have read The Thanksgiving Visitor as well as One Christmas ... in both Sook is portrayed as wiser and less child-like, more like a beloved grandmother or aunt, than a personal friend.

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      Yes, I've seen it for myself. Depends upon the individual personalities.

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      I found it completely believable. They were both on the bottom rung of the ladder in their family group. It is logical that they would find comfort and friendship in each other.

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    2. The rest of the family is hardly mentioned, except when they interact with Sook or Buddy. What did you think of their treatment of Sook? Of Buddy?

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      They act like typical adults, unable to adjust their level of conversation and interaction to anyone but adults.

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      The other adults in the house seemed to really ignore both Sook and Buddy except to censure them. There was no evidence of any "caring" for these two dependent people ... Sook because of her frailty and developmental challenges, and Buddy because he was such a young child.

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      Of course the story is told through Buddy's voice...so naturally they don't play a big part in his consciousness since they clearly usually ignore him. However, he and Sook both receive nice gifts and are part of the family's Christmas celebration. I don't think they are mistreated, just ignored as a general rule. I love how Buddy refers to them at the end of the story as "those who Know Best".

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      As Capote wrote this as autobiography, it's fair to look at what he wrote elsewhere about his family, and even though the cousins in the household included male and female adults, the women among them went out to work; it's almost as though those other adults were collectively a stereotypical man-of-the-house, and Sook had the role of the wife -- which included raising the one child in the menage: Truman/Buddy. They had a farm of some size, and had farm workers who came for breakfast and ate with the household at what was the big meal of the day--it wasn't unusual to have fried chicken and such things along with the bacon and eggs, and Sook put that all on the table every day for as many as 15 people -- no mean feat -- and Truman helped.

      That husband-wife dynamic is what I see when I read about it, not anything Capote ever wrote, but if teh analogy holds, well, it wouldn't have been the first marriage in which the wife took a back seat in pretty much everything and in which she and the kids often were made to cry by the more powerful people -- which doesn't mean that they weren't loved! But I can't imagine that they were really thought of as people with their own goals and dreams. Frankly I'm amazed that these people allowed Sook and Buddy to spend money and effort making cakes to give away to strangers!

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    3. The story is set in the rural South during the Depression. How does the setting and time period contribute to the story?

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      Back then you went without mostly, but could scrounge around for necessities as they did.
      It also called for more imagination to keep yourself entertained.

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      I really got a sense of that time from the story. Wonderful, vivid storytelling!

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      It would be hard to write this story today when in even the poorest American households the kids have seen television, know more about the wider world instead of just waving at the bus driver (what an image! I love it, but it does stab my heart), and wouldn't be content with homemade Christmas decorations...

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      I don't have it in front of me to quote directly, but Capote talks about all the things that Sook has never done ... seen a picture show, etc.

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    4. Many Americans complain that Christmas and other holidays have become too commercial. Did you think about this question as you read how Sook and Buddy prepared for Christmas?

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      Yes indeed, the contrast between the deeply personal gift-giving of the Depression era is in extreme contrast to our customs and viewpoints in 2012.

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      Yes it is, but the story didn't make me think that. We grew up somewhat similar, so it just made me think of my own childhood.

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      My family has hung onto traditions and tried not to let it get too commercial. Same with Thanksgiving.
      We are a Christian family so for us Christmas is and always has been a celebration of the birth of Jesus.

      My daughter and I still make Christmas cookies together, even though she is now 24.
      We read the Christmas story from the Bible.
      We get together with certain family on certain days. We open stockings first, have a big breakfast, then open gifts.
      This is the way it has always been for us.
      AND... we are a very crafty family so we do make some of our gifts.

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    5. Why do you think this story has remained popular through the years?

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      Its a very short story written beautifully, and everyone can relate to what is going on (at least in the USA). But mostly the characters are sweet and truly care for one another.

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    6. Do you have a favorite Christmas (or other holiday) memory you’d be willing to share with us?

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      Most years we didn't have much because we were poor. But every so often their would be a little extra money and we would get something.

      So this one year when their was some money, my dad decided to dress up as Santa Clause and surprise us. We were small but observant little tikes. So when he came through the door all dressed up in red with a brilliant white beard my sister says "Hi, Dad!"
      You see he was still wearing his black wing tipped shoes which we always associated with him.

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      I think it was the year after my Grandpa died. My Grandma was going to drive the hour to our house alone (like they always used to do together). There was a snow storm. It probably would have been late 70's in upstate NY. She didn't show and didn't show, and the snow fell and snow fell. This was before cell phones of course. As a young teen I thought she was not going to come. I thought the snow would keep her home.
      Then finally way later than usual - she came! I almost couldn't believe it. I ran outside to her car. I told her I thought she wouldn't come because of the storm. And she said "Of course I would still come, it's Christmas! I just had to go slow."

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    7. Do you have a favorite passage from the story? Please share and tell us why it struck you so.

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      Perhaps when they went out to hunt up the Xmas tree.

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      For me it's when they have gone out to fly their kites and Sook looks around at the beauty of the meadow, and starts to talk about what it will be like to finally see the Lord ...
      "I’ll wager at the very end a body realizes the Lord has already shown Himself. That things as they are” – her hand circles in a gesture that gathers clouds and kites and grass and Queenie pawing earth over her bone – “just what they’ve always seen, was seeing Him. As for me, I could leave the world with today in my eyes.”

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      “I've always thought a body would have to be sick and dying before they saw the Lord. And I imagined that when He came it would be like looking at the Baptist window: pretty as colored glass with the sun pouring through, such a shine you don't know it's getting dark. And it's been a spooky feeling. But I'll wager it never happens. I'll wager at the very end a body realizes the Lord has already shown Himself. That things as they are' - her hand circles in a gesture that gathers clouds and kites and grass and Queenie pawing earth over her bone - 'just what they've always seen, was seeing Him. As for me, I could leave the world with today in my eyes.”

      Ha! Same for me - BC!

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      I love that part too BC. There are so many nice little moments in this story that it is hard to choose just one. I did like the part when, finished with the fruitcake deliveries, they indulged in just a spot of the leftover whiskey and sang and danced around the kitchen. Like children having a joyous good time until the grownups return and put a stop to it.

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    8. Rate and Review.

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      5 OF 5

      Gorgeous story of a young boy and older aunt that spend a heartwarming Alabama Christmas together during the depression and go about their normal holiday chores.

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      A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote
      5***** and a ❤

      This autobiographical story is based on Capote’s own childhood, living with relatives in Alabama. It’s a memory of the innocence of childhood and the anticipation of something special. It is also a story of love and respect, as well as of loneliness and want.

      One crisp November morning 7-year-old Buddy hears his cousin Sook (whom he calls Friend) declare, “It’s fruitcake weather!” With that pronouncement, the two set off on their annual campaign to bake dozens of fruitcakes for “friends.” Sook is an elderly woman with a child’s mind, and she and Buddy are constant companions (and each other’s only friend). It is during the Great Depression and times are hard. It takes them all year to save the pennies, nickels, dimes for their Fruitcake Fund, and the other relatives in their household look upon them with derision. Still, nothing can dampen their spirits as they bake and mail the fruitcakes, hunt deep into the woods for the perfect Christmas tree, make the ornaments and decorations that will make it look “good enough to eat!”

      Capote was a gloriously talented writer and he is at his best here. The reader feels the anticipation of a child, smells the piney woods, shivers in the crisp morning, and is comforted in the warmth of love.

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      Absolutely wonderful story that EVERYONE should have the chance to read and enjoy.

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    This is probably my favourite book of all time. I gave a copy to a friend who is *very* demanding about what he reads, who has published a bajillion books (mostly historical fiction, under a variety of names) and who has worked as an editor for Doubleday, and he said it was the first book he'd read in years in which he didn't want to change anything, not even a comma.

    Part of what makes it so wonderful is that all these characters really ask of life is to have each other. They dream of winning a competition, sure, and Buddy wants to be a tap dancer, but we know those kinds of dreams; Buddy may dream of tap-dancing, but all he really asks of life is a new kite for Christmas. And then when Buddy loses his friend--it's heartbreaking.

    It's a gem. We see just a few days, but each moment is polished, and they glitter in the light the author shows them in. I think my favourite bit is when they meet Mr Ha-Ha Jones, and there again, it's the contrast between expectations: they will go get the booze from Mrs Ha-Ha, but they encounter the man himself. At the speakeasy, Buddy's friend says "Mrs Ha-Ha, Ma'am? Anyone to home?" -- unexpected language for that place--it's charming. And after the tense encounter, we get Ha-Ha's kindness, and another polite, understated response: "We'll put an extra cup of raisins in his cake".

    I've got chunks of the book memorized, I think, just from re-reading. The first time I ever heard of the book, I was walking across a college campus in Kentucky on a dark night a week or so before Christmas, and ran into some younger students who were going to the college chapel for one of them to read something to the others. They invited me along and I went, having no idea what this was about -- it wasn't a performance, anything announced, just this guy from Alabama was going to read the story out loud to some friends and they decided the deserted chapel would be the right place for it. It. Was. Magical. The perfect introduction to the book. One of those serendipitous experiences that you never forget.

    (Happy sigh.) My favourite book.

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      Oh ... I can just picture that. How absolutely wonderful that must have been.

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      I recently re-connected with that Alabama student (now living in New Orleans) via Facebook. I sent him a message yesterday about the story, and how I remember him reading it, and then sent another message saying to forget my first message, about how I always think of him at this time of year (which I do); I should have just written "Buddy, it's fruitcake weather".

      And he sent back a quoted-from-memory paraphrase of the ending, looking for a pair of kites in the sky...

      Darnit -- one of these days he and I ought to actually manage to be in the same place at the same time, and raise our glasses to ol' Truman.

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      You are right, mef...A Christmas Memory is "perfect". And if I were raising a glass to ol' Truman, a great idea by the way, I would fill my glass with an inch or two of some fine whiskey.

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      Definitely bourbon! (Well, I did grow up in Kentucky.)

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      Well in my childhood home we'd toast with a fine sipping tequila.
      But I live in Wisconsin now, so I'll have a brandy ... in a warmed snifter, please.

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    Just noticed that I'm apparently the ONLY READER AT SHELFARI WHO HAS REVIEWED THIS BOOK!

    C'mon, readers of southern fiction. Love this one or hate it, let your opinion be known to the Shelfari world!!

    EDIT: OOPS! Just occurred to me that the reviews here go by editions, so there are probably more reviews on other editions, and it's just that mine is the only review of the edition I've got...sorry...never mind... (slinks away, blushing)

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      Been there, done that! I've got reviews on two different editions.

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      Mine's been up there for a few weeks.

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    Readers here who are interested in Capote might be interest in this article from Vanity Fair about his unfinished book "Answered Prayers", and how publishing chapters in the magazine in advance of publishing the book helped to bring his life to a sad conclusion.

    The article includes a link to a never-before-published chapter of "Answered Prayers" for which the manuscript recently came to light.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/12/truman-capote-answered-prayers

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