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  • dustydigger

    Who should be the next Science Fiction Grand Master?

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    I hadnt realized that Grand Masters can only be chosen from living authors.Iconic writers like J G Ballard,James Blish, John Brunner,Algis Budrys,Thomas M Disch,Philip K Dick,Frank Herbert,C L Moore,Robert Sheckley, Theodore Sturgeon,and Roger Zelazny died too soon. It must be a bit depressing actually to be given this award hurriedly before you die! lol.Seriously though,what authors do you think should be awarded the honour.Surely Gene Wolfe should be a contender.What about C J Cherryh...perhaps she is not decrepit enough yet.as we discussed a little while ago,the great stars of the 40s have almost all gone to rest,plus many in the 50s.Who would be on your list?

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  • Mark W. Tiedemann
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    Gene Wolfe definitely.

    Greg Benford. Kate Wilhelm. Samuel R. Delany.

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    I certinly agree about Gene Wolfe.Apart from being a living person,the SFWA seem to be looking for a long career,with a strong body of work,acclaimed by fellow authors,and also very popular with the readers.Quite a tightrope to walk,but Gene does it effortlessly. To me Delaney started off brilliantly,Babel-17, Eisenstein Intersection,but has he really sustained it over time.
    Kate Wilhelm is very impressive,but again she went off to the crime area,is her SF work strong enough.I am unable to judge,only know her crime work,though I am hoping to read Where Late the Sweet Birds Sand in the next few weeks.
    Ashamed to say I havent read Benford at all.He will be one of the authors I want to get to know as I get back into science fiction.Which of his works would you recommend?

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    • Mark W. Tiedemann
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      Good points, but it's always a bit subjective. In my view, Delany has sustained admirably, not only with his fiction but also with his critical work and his journalism.

      Kate wrote seminal SF---Where Late the Sweet Birds Sing, Welcome Chaos, The Planners---not to mention years of work with Clarion.

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    • dustydigger
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      I wasnt taking into account the critical work,which of course SFWA members would be vitally aware of.
      They better get a move on with Gene,he's 81!

      For those unfamiliar with the list,here are the Masters so far;
      1975 Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)
      1976 Jack Williamson (1908-2006)
      1977 Clifford D. Simak (1904-1988)
      1979 L. Sprague de Camp (1907-2000)
      1981 Fritz Leiber (1910-1992)
      1984 Andre Norton (1912-2005)
      1986 Arthur C. Clarke (1917-2008)
      1987 Isaac Asimov (1920-1992)
      1988 Alfred Bester (1913-1987)
      1989 Ray Bradbury (1920-2012)
      1991 Lester del Rey (1915-1993)
      1993 Frederik Pohl (1919-)
      1995 Damon Knight (1922-2002)
      1996 A. E. van Vogt (1912-2000)
      1997 Jack Vance (1916-)
      1998 Poul Anderson (1926-2001)
      1999 Hal Clement (Harry Stubbs) (1922-2003)
      2000 Brian W. Aldiss (1925-)
      2001 Philip José Farmer (1918-2009)
      2003 Ursula K. Le Guin (1929-)
      2004 Robert Silverberg (1935-)
      2005 Anne McCaffrey (1926-2011)
      2006 Harlan Ellison (1934-)
      2007 James Gunn (1923-)
      2008 Michael Moorcock (1939-)
      2009 Harry Harrison (1925-)
      2010 Joe Haldeman (1943-)
      2011 Connie Willis (1945-)

      Looks a trifle odd that they have jumped forward to Haldeman and Willis,mere striplings in their 60s,before Wolfe and Wilhelm.Perhaps they class Wolfe as fantasy? Very odd.
      For the most part,SF writers seem a remarkably long-lived bunch ! lol

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  • jerry-book
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    Gene Wolfe or Samuel Delaney

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  • Richard
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    How about Stephen Baxter or William Gibson?

    They are the only names I could think of. I don't know what people think of Baxter and I am thinking Gibson hasn't written that much but is given credit for starting the cyberpunk books.

    And then there is Kevin J. Anderson! :)

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  • dustydigger

    dustydigger (edited)

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    SH! Bite your tongue,Richard,Kevin is sharpening a blade and grinding his teeth,so I would tiptoe away quietly......

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    • Richard
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      lol...I have mentioned this before but my brother and I enjoy making fun of Kevin Anderson.

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    • dustydigger
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      I did notice.i am not exactly getting great vibes about this author! ;0)

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    • Kevin H
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      I used to like Anderson, but after attempting to read the god-awful The Edge of the World, I'm swearing off his books.

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    • Richard

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      I didn't know him until I read the Jedi Academy books that came out after Timothy's Zahn's trilogy to restart Star Wars again. While Zahn's were pretty good, I began to loathe Anderson's books and could not figure why he kept talking about events in the Dark Horse comics. From then on, I saw how lucky he is to attach himself to greater works than he is entitled to. Like Superman and the Dune books. I absolutely refuse to read any of those.

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  • Mark W. Tiedemann
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    Saw a new title by this guy and realized I had completely forgotten him, but once remembered I also realized that he has done some absolutely magnificent work.

    John Varley

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      He is one of those Hugo/Nebula nominees who get abit pushed aside by the more flashy authors.I have Millenium,Titan and Persistence of Vision on my TBR -quick, another pitprop.There is a lot of ominous creaking,and the pile is starting to imitate the Tower of Pisa

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  • mark s
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    Tiedemann. He should really publish more *WEG*

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    • Mark W. Tiedemann
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      I'm trying, I'm trying. Jeez!

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    • dustydigger
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      Mark M,as I said somewhere I am saving my pennies to buy books at Xmas with vouchers or whatever I can wring out of my family.I checked out your books,and none are available in my library system (surprise surprise,whoever chooses the stock for my county's science fiction is NOT a fan.) so tell me which are your 2 favourite books out of your oeuvre(doesnt that sound impressive?) and I will get them.They all look fun,my kind of books! :0)

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    • Mark W. Tiedemann
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      Compass Reach
      Remains

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    • dustydigger
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      Thank you Mark,will check them out! :0)

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    • mark s
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      I'll 2nd Remains.

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    • ScoLgo
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      dustydigger: I have read Remains and 2 out of 3 Secantis Sequence books, (Secantis 3: Peace & Memory is sitting on the shelf giving me a 'come-hither' look at the moment). I can heartily recommend them all. I especially liked Metal of Night. In truth, the Secantis books are stand-alone stories but there are some loosely-connected common threads so it's best to start with Compass Reach. Still, if you happen across either of the other books, don't hesitate to grab them as it's not really necessary to read in order of publication.

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  • dustydigger
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    Thinking about Grand Masters,I was thinking of mentioning Richard Matheson, to be nominated for his sterling work in the SF fields.Then I thought,better not..I hope I am not jinxing the oldtimers of SF.This year I read Anne McCaffrey,Ray Bradbury,and Harry Harrison,and within weeks they were dead! Seeing that Matheson is 87,and I just read I am Legend,perhaps I should keep my fingers crossed.

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