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  • Stacy-Deanne

    Big Tip For Newbies When Describing A Character

    Hi All,

    The tip:

    Never, ever use a celebrity or famous person to describe a character.

    This is a number one rule but still it happens. This is the biggest form of lazy writing (along with starting off with the backstory and long passages of info dump) that a writer can do. Readers do not appreciate it and it lacks imagination.

    Don't tell someone a character looks like so and so! You should describe your characters or if you don't feel it's necessary, just certain things about the characters. Just don't go, "He looks like Denzil Washington" or "She looks like Sandra Bullock".

    DESCRIBE THEM without using this crutch.

    Best Wishes!

    http://www.stacy-deanne.net
    Stacy-Deanne started this discussion 3 weeks ago. ( reply )

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  • Nee

    Nee 

    Sandra Bullock...!! She's hot.

    ;-P

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  • Khalil H (is thinking about The Hunger Games, somewhat)

    Khalil H (is thinking about The Hunger Games, somewhat) 

    I never thought of this. But when you mentioned it, I think I can agree with you on that. Describing a character like that seems incomplete and even unprofessional. Heck, I don't even know one of the celebrities you mentioned***. At least that's what I think. Thanks.

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    • Nee

      Nee 

      Not only that but, when you do something like that you also invoke any distasteful image or social prejudice that the reader might have against that person. Furthermore, I’d rather let my character’s actions and personality describe themselves to the reader: revealing only those physical characteristics that are needed to move the story forward.

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    • Stacy-Deanne

      Stacy-Deanne 

      Great point, Nee. I never thought of it like that but I see how this could happen. Say the author describes a character as someone a reader might hate, it would definitely prejudice the reader against the character. If a writer admires the way a celeb looks and wants their character to look like them, they should get a pic of the celeb, look at it and describe the celeb's features in their own words. But simply saying he or she looks like someone is not only a lazy copout but it's also telling and not showing. With some characters it's best to only describe tiny bits of them and let the audience make up their minds. With some of my minor characters I don't even describe them. I think it brings something to the story if the reader can invision certain characters the way they want.

      Best Wishes!

      http://www.stacy-deanne.net

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    • Khalil H (is thinking about The Hunger Games, somewhat)

      Khalil H (is thinking about The Hunger Games, somewhat) 

      That's a good point, too, Stacy. I may be lazy, but I'm definitely not going to use that way to describe my characters. Also, the minor character part is something I'll try to keep in my imaginative mind. Leave out some not-so-important details about the character, and then let the reader draw the whole picture. Thanks again!

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    • Nee

      Nee 

      Still ya know, it’s not even a matter of ‘allowing’ the reader to fill in the details of the character’s appearance anyway, because being human we cannot do anything other than (instantly) assigning a look based upon the demeanor of a character the moment she/he walks into the scene. That’s what brains do. They assign reasons to acts, and looks to actors. This is the reason they say to describe the character as soon as they inter the story. But actually, for me, it is already too late. So inevitably, I have to erase the portion that didn’t match, what the author said was how the character was ‘spose to looked like.

      I believe emphasizing a character’s actions go further in way of painting a clear picture of the character then paragraph or two of mere description.

      Oh…and how ‘bout the ones the go off into a 300 word breakdown of what the character is wearing… :D

      But Then, examples are always better. How ‘bout a classic?
      …………………………………………

      While Mrs. Douglas was speaking freely on a subject she knew little about, Jubal E. Harshaw, LL.B, M.D., Sc.D., bon vivant, gourmet, sybarite, popular author extraordinary and neo-pessimist philosopher, was sitting by his pool at his home in the Poconos, scratching the gray thatch on his chest, and watching his secretaries splash in the pool. They were all amazingly beautiful; they were also amazingly good secretaries. In Harshaw’s opinion the principle of least action required that utility and beauty be combined.

      Anne was blonde, Mirian red-headed, and Dorcas dark; they ranged, respectively, from pleasantly plump to deliciously slender. Their ages spread over fifteen years but it was hard to tell which was the eldest.

      Harshaw was working hard. Most of him was watching pretty girls do pretty things with sun and water; one small, shuttered, soundproofed compartment was composing. He claimed that his method of writing was to hook his gonads in parallel with his thalamus and disconnect his cerebrum; his habits lent credibility to the theory.

      A microphone on the table was hooked up to a voicewriter but he used it only for notes. When he was ready to write he used stenographer and watched her reactions. He was ready now. “Front!” he shouted.

      “Anne is front,” answered Dorcas. “I’ll take it. That splash was Anne.”

      “Dive in and get her.” The brunette cut the water; moments later Anne climbed out, put on a robe and sat down at the table. She said nothing and made no preparations; Anne had total recall.

      Harshaw picked up a bucket of ice over which brandy had been poured, took a swig. “Anne, I’ve got a sick-making one. It’s about a little kitten that wanders into a church on Christmas Eve to get warm. Besides being starved and frozen and lost, the kitten has—God knows why—an injured paw. All right; start: ‘snow had been falling since—’”

      “What pen name?”

      Mmm…use Molly Wadsworth, this one is pretty icky. Title it The Other Manger. Start again,” he went on talking while he watched her. When tears started to leak from her closed eyes he smiled slightly and closed his own. By the time he finished tears were running down his cheeks as well as hers, both bathed in catharsis of scmaltz.

      “Thirty,” he announced. “Blow your nose. Sent it off and for God’s sake don’t let me see it.”

      “Jubal, aren’t you ever ashamed?”

      “No.”

      “Someday I’m going to kick you right in your fat stomach for one of these.”

      “I know. Get your fanny indoors and take care of it before I change my mind.”

      “Yes, Boss.”

      She kissed his bald spot as she passed behind his chair. Harshaw yelled, “Front!” and Miriam started toward him. A loudspeaker mounted on the house came to life.

      “Boss!”

      Harshaw uttered one word and Miriam chuckled. He added, “Yes, Larry?”

      The speaker answered, “There’s a dame down here at the gate—and she’s got a corpse with her.

      Harshaw considered this, “Is she pretty?”

      ………………………………………………

      See…an introduction of four new characters with hardly any description. There is actually very little character description in the entire novel: and it’s 438 pages long, with ten or fifteen major characters and around 80 minor ones.

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    • Cora

      Cora 

      Thanks for the advice, everyone!
      -Cora

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
    • uplandpoet

      uplandpoet 

      nee, did you write that? if not, who is the author?

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
    • Nee

      Nee (edited)

      Ooops.
      Now my ego would like nothing better than to claim that honorific, my sense of right and wrong will not allow such a thing. I apologize for the fact that I had originally mentioned that that piece was ‘written in the later part of the 1950’s, but was not published until 1961—but, somehow I edited that bit out :\ sorry.

      I posted it to show that the point I was making has had a long debate, and to show how that it is clearly not necessary to go into extensive descriptions.

      Also, I posted that particular bit cuz a number of people around here act as if they know all about this writer but actually they have only read one or three of his books. This bit was taken from his must recognizable work, and one of his more memorable characters.

      It still surprise me that, even people who have read “Stranger in a Strange Land”, as well as a number of other of Heinlein’s work didn’t make the connection that Jubal E. Harshaw, was a black man. ‘Course Heinlein didn’t spell it out: for there were already a number of highly controversial aspects of the story anyway so why throw race on top of it all? Especially, when the black man he was writing about was not only a highly educated (and rich) black man who’s white servants call him Boss, but also a black man that opened the scene by umm…contemplating three white women splashing about naked in his pool.

      Heinlein’s ability to flaunt a particular thing in the face of authority while still concealing its blatant fact, is one of the more interesting things about Heinlein.

      And again, it was unfortunate that I left out his attribution. Sorry.

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  • Naya Jayne

    Naya Jayne 

    my editor raked me for not having a physical description of my main character. I didn't have one by choice.

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    • Nee

      Nee 

      Stick to your guns...they are not necessary.

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    • Stacy-Deanne

      Stacy-Deanne 

      Hi Tenaya,

      Yeah most are gonna want at least just a little description of a main character but a very minor character doesn't have to be described in my opinion. I've read stories where the author spent unnecessary time describing characters that only showed up once. If the person isn't important, do I need to know the color of their hair, eyes and what they are wearing? Especially if the author has no plans for them in the end.

      I feel you about your editor but that's part of compromise and writers have to do it. If it's something you really believe in that you don't want to do it then you shouldn't. But most times when editors and agents suggest things, they are seeing it from the reader's point of view and that's actually helping us. I must admit that most of the suggestions I get from agents and editors have made my stories better, LOL. It's just the little things sometimes.

      I think most readers (that are not writers) like to have a little description with the main character. It helps them to relate.

      I just describe them once and that's enough. Some authors describe the same character's looks in every scene they're in. Those folks need extra editing and didn't catch that or weren't advised. Description can definitely get in the way of a story if it's obsessive. In fact I'm reading a so-called mystery right now and the man is describing everything from the trees to the spit that flies out the dog's mouth! A little too much.

      Best Wishes!

      http://www.stacy-deanne.net

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    • uplandpoet

      uplandpoet 

      funny, the exception proves one to be the master. edora welty could go on with decrsriptions, but they were so delicious, they were better than the action in most novels! but that is like saying that joyce and faulkner means everybody should write in stream of conciousness. still a good rule to follow the rules, until you become a master.

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  • nina d

    nina d 

    I prefer some kind of description but not to the point where the entire paragraph is about their looks.

    As I tell my story, I fill in more as I go. In one story I mention his height and curly dark hair when the reader first encounters him. I think it is important to gve a broad stoke here...but within the action. Another chapter mentions his eyes and another scene goes into more facial detail....pointing out the flaws along with the good points.

    What I like is to see the description woven into the story so the action is non-stop.

    Nina

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