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  • Brighid M

    Does a writer's age matter to agents and/or publishers?

    If an eighty-seven year-old man in a rest home wrote a moving, exciting post-war adventure, would an editor refuse to publish it? If a thirteen year-old girl wrote an amazing, humorous young adult fantasy novel, would an agent tell her that she was too young, and to come back in a few years? In short, does an author's age matter to an agent or editor? If so, why? What are some traps that younger or older writers should look out for?
    All comments are be greatly appreciated! Agent profiles never seem to have this sort of information.

    Brighid M started this discussion 1 month ago (edited). ( reply )

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  • Jacqui C

    Jacqui C 

    Hello Brighid,

    At someplace near the higher end of your age spread I am hoping that first an agent and then a publisher would be more interested in the craft of the writing and the read of the story than the age of the author. I have been assured that this is the case but have not reached the point yet where I need to test it. Maybe I never will--that's why, for me, it is the process that has become my mantra--not getting it published. Then the traps seem to disappear.

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  • steeleweed

    steeleweed 

    I really doubt a writer's age has much effect on an agent or publisher decision. If you don't mention your age in a query letter (why would you?), there's really no way for an agent/publisher to know an author's age unless the content of the writing gives it away - autobiographic, etc. From a marketing point of view - which is all publisher really cares about - an unusually young or elderly writer could be a good selling point.

    Suggest you concentrate on creating the best book you can instead of inventing an obstacle you can't do anything about in any case.

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    • uplandpoet

      uplandpoet 

      i think being too old or too young to help promoter your book, or to be in too poor of health at any age, is a disadvantage, but as steelwood points out, it can also be a compelling back story, which can offset it. i think a healthy 98 yr old, who wrote brilliantly and popularly, would do well, same for a 13 yr old. there are plenty of stumbling blocks for both but god knows there are plenty for us 25-54 yr olds too(primary adult marketing demographic)

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    • Stacy-Deanne

      Stacy-Deanne (edited)

      Hi Upland,

      Honestly, the age or health doesn't matter when it comes to that book or the promotion. There have been a lot of people who sold a book and died right after signing the contract. I believe even some best sellers came through that way if I recall. I know there was a man who did his memoir back in the 90's. He had AIDs or cancer and he'd gotten a deal and died before the book even went close to print. I remember an elderly lady getting a deal a few years ago. She got a six figure advance and her book either hit best seller status or was on its way to it but she died before publication. So, her being active in promotion really didn't make a difference and the book was selling anyway.

      It depends on how active the publisher is going to be for that book. It has nothing to do with the author because the pub already knows the type of push they're going to bring to the product.

      There are millions of writers who are disabled and never leave their house and they have built careers as writers. Besides that, most authors (as we all know) are reclusive. The average writer is not like those you see giving signings or tours. Most writers do not like to go out much, are homebodies and stuck in their own world of writing. Yet, their books are being promoted and being sold.

      With the part about promoting the book, I assume you meant traditional methods such as signings and tours where it might be harder for folks to get out. Well, tours and signings are decided by the author and paid for by the author. Pubs don't suggest them and they don't force you or even ask you, so if an author is elderly or disabled and know it's hard for them to get around, they most likely won't choose this type of promotion.

      Another thing is that author promotion is way overrated. We all should promote our books but the little stuff an author does couldn't compare to the worst marketing a publisher does. By the time a book hits bookstores, it's already seen the bulk of its promotion. Most promotion comes from pre-promotion so stuff like "signings" and "tours" are just extras if the author wants to do them. But no author is hindered just for the fact of "not being able to get out". It doesn't matter these days.

      The Internet is the key these days making it even better for authors to not have to waste tons of money or even "leave" the house if they aren't able.

      Also, I don't believe anyone is in the "primary adult marketing demographic". (This is just my opinion). Age has nothing to do with it, if there is one. The only people that would be in such a category are authors who can step out the door and guarantee book sales, LOL. That would be the criteria for that but no one in publishing and writing cares about age unless certain issues arise. Age certainly doesn't matter when it comes to marketing.

      What matters is the nature of the book, how big the intended audience is, getting it to that audience and bringing in the numbers. I can say that writing is one industry where age and looks really doesn't matter, LOL.

      Best Wishes!

      http://www.stacy-deanne.net

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  • Tina F

    Tina F 

    If the story is compelling, well-written, and polished, age won't matter.

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  • Brighid M

    Brighid M 

    Thanks for your opinions! This certainly clears a few things up :)

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  • Stacy-Deanne

    Stacy-Deanne (edited)

    Someone asked about this before. I can't remember but it was a teenage girl.

    First off, how would an agent or pub know your age when you first pitch your query? They won't right? Nope, this is not information you share until AFTER/or IF you are offered a contract. Then you will have to let them know of your age but it's not something you need to mention beforehand. And you might end up shooting yourself in the foot if you do. The only info you put on a query would be your contact info and your name and any publishing credits you might have. You don't have to say your age, job, family life, any of that. So, age wouldn't come up at first contact anyway.

    Now, if offered a contract...

    Age really shouldn't matter but sometimes it "might". From what I've witnessed with agents and editors, it's better to be on the older side than too young. They feel if you're older you have more experience with writing and you certainly have more life experience and natural knowledge. When you are too young, most feel that you don't have the experience or have had a chance to perfect your skills enough to write a saleable book. I can understand that because writing is a reflection of growing. I started writing professionally at 19 but didn't get published until my mid-twenties. I think any writer can agree that experiences in the industry and learning the craft (for years) before attempting publication gives any writer an upperhand. You gotta know the industry.

    So it mainly depends on this. Are you someone who has been writing for years, knows how to write a manuscript correctly, knows how to polish, edit and revise to the point where the book is at an acceptable result? If so, then your age SHOULDN'T matter at all. The bottom line is the work has to be worthy, you must know how to write and produce a book that will sell or at least have a chance to.

    Ask yourself this, would you care if your agent was very young or very old? A lot of authors have a prejudice against the ages of agents more than agents do of writers. Some writers think old agents are out of touch while others think younger agents don't know enough. (Shrugging), it goes both ways so age shouldn't get in the way of an opportunity.

    Best Wishes!

    http://www.stacy-deanne.net

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  • Brighid M

    Brighid M 

    Thanks Stacey! I am on the younger side of the age spread and although I think it will take maybe two or three of years for my manuscript to be ready for a potential agent to read, I want to know now whether it is worth the effort to send off :). I will probably still be in high school when I start contacting agents, so I don't want them to send it back with a "Yes, yes, yes! But no." post-it on top xD.
    A few more questions, if anyone knows the answers lol. Will an agent try to take advantage of me as a younger author? And everyone on Shelfari always talks about NY as where all the agents and publishers are. I don't even live in the USA, let alone New York, so I doubt that I'm going there any time soon. Surely there are plenty of other places where publishers and agents are set up, but I just don't hear about them. So does anyone know where they are? And do I need to travel to these places to meet an agent? Or do they come to see you? Do you even need to meet your agent person to person?
    B

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    • Stacy-Deanne

      Stacy-Deanne (edited)

      Hi Brighid,

      The only agents who would take advantage of you would be scammers and you can tell these immediately. They have no experience, sales history, unworthy (or no) clients and most of them charge upfront. You never, ever, ever pay an agent money upfront. Scam agents also have no real ties to real pubs and will most likely try to fit writers with shady vanity presses or POD companies. This is a big red sign.

      Tina covered the location aspect for you perfectly. As for meeting your agent. Most people never meet their agents in person and they definitely don't meet their editors. It's rare if this happens. You do everything by email and phone. It's not like on television where agents or publishers fly out to meet authors (Stacy rolling eyes). Television has its own reality, LOL!

      As for people who say that NY is where all the agents and publishers are, they are way behind and ill informed. The big pubs' MAIN buildings are in New York but they have departments set up overseas and in other parts of the USA. For example, Random House, Simon and Schuster and Penquin all have imprints in different states and not in NY. Most small publishers are not even in New York and agents are everywhere. My agent is in LA, California. I think that the people who have said this are going on how things used to be but it's not like that anymore. I live in Houston, Texas and we even have small publishing houses here now and we certainly have agents.

      The biggest thing is not the location but the quality of your work and getting it to people who will benefit you and help you get to publication.

      Best Wishes!

      http://www.stacy-deanne.net

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
    • Brighid M

      Brighid M 

      Thanks for the tips about scammers. There are so many people out there who try to take advantage of innocent situations. So good agents don't ask for a fee? That's certainly useful to know!

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
    • uplandpoet

      uplandpoet 

      good or bad, if they are legit, they do not ask for a fee!

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
    • Brighid M

      Brighid M 

      Right. *stores knowledge in memory*

      posted 3 weeks ago. ( reply )
  • Gummo's Gone (edited)

    No

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  • Tina F

    Tina F 

    Some agents in the USA won't take on authors who live outside the US due to the problems of mailing the manuscript back and forth for edits, etc., which the author always pays for the postage, both ways. Some agents will let you submit by email, but you'll need to query them to see if they allow this. The query letter is usually accepted, but many may not allow you to submit your manuscript this way. Many agents prefer the old way of having a printed copy sent by mail, with an enclosed return mailer (SASE).

    Most agents have websites these days, so you can find out what their submission guidelines are and if you can submit through email. Though, many agents will not accept email attachments, due to the risk of new types of virus, worms, trojans, or other computer problems. Many an agent's computer has crashed due to picking up a virus from an unknown person's attachment. They don't know you, and have no reason to think you don't have a virus, or worm, or trojan included in your attachment. Therefore, you will have to ask if it is okay to submit this way.

    When looking for an agent, do some research first. Many agents only handle certain genres. Therefore only query those who handle your type of material. Be aware that most agents dont handle short stories or poetry. Some do, but the majority won't. It is not cost effective. So, make sure your material is in a novel length suitable for the genre you write in.

    Once you find a list of those who take on your type of material, then you have to sort through those who are not taking on new clients. You may only have one agent, but the agent can have many clients, and therefore, if they are feeling that thay can't handle any more, they will say that they are not taking on new clients. (This does not mean "New writers", just more clients.)

    These days you may never meet your agent. There are agents all over. Many small ones work at home. They do everything through the mail, and by phone. They send your manuscript by mail, talk to the editors by phone. They don't have to live in NY to be effective at their job.

    I hope this helps you. Best of luck to you.

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  • Kate C

    Kate C 

    Hi Brighid,

    I'm 16 years old and I recently signed with an agent for my YA novel. For me, it was very important that my writing be judged for its own merit. I was very careful in my query and interactions with the agent to not mention my youth. Once she had offered me a contract, I let her know how old I was. Agents will not care how old the author is, unless you decide to blatantly point it out.

    ~Kate

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  • Brighid M

    Brighid M 

    WOW. Congratulations!
    Thanks. It's good to hear from someone who has actually done that lol, not who only knows the theory :)
    B

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