I certainly hope it can be done. I don't see any reason why not, if they can make Lord of the Rings, and X-Men, they should be able to do a credible job here.
I was hoping for more of a Sin City vibe. Real dark and film Noir.
Zack Snider has signed on to direct this and if you've seen any of the trailers for 300, it’s a magnificent looking film. Watchmen is a very character driven story though and Zach (so far) has done two very action oriented films (Dawn of the Dead being the other). I'm anxious to see how he develops the characters of Watchmen as others have failed in their attempts to develop this great piece of work.
Some new info just came out about the movie today. Zack Snider came out with some comments recently saying that it will be set in the 80s and it will be less of a CGI fest and more like Taxi Driver. Dark and Gritty. The link to the story is below.
No, I don't think it can be done, without killing the story. Remember, this is a very very character driven story, with lots of stuff about being inside the character's heads. Without voiceovers and back stories, it'd take days to tell i properly. What we'll probably get is a horribly simplified version of it. Also, it takes place in 1985, 22 years ago. This is a very different world now...
Maybe it would be better as an HBO series or something more along those lines. Show the Hero fans were the idea of making Syler a watchmaker came form.
I wouldn't be surprised if they went through with it. As to whether it will be any good, I'll wait until I see the trailer to make an opinion. All I know is Alan Moore's going to go postal.
i've heard this movie has been attempted 3 times... the last one by darren aronofsky of "Requiem for a dream" and "Pi" fame ... he ditched it to work on another project ... one of the other two (i can't remember the names) said it was an impossible movie to turn to film.
:o ... i just hope somebody does it ... and right :)
They've been trying to make this a movie for about 20 years, and it hasn't happened yet. I haven't gotten too excited about the concept since Terry Gilliam stopped being attached to the project.
Terry Gilliam and Darren Aronofsky are both great filmmakers that in my opinion would have done a great job. All eyes are now on Zack and he better live up to the expectations.
Did you hear they were making this into a movie. It's being directed by the guy who did 300 Spartans. Think this can be done?
I disagree that Watchmen is superior to Dark Knight Returns, comics is a medium, you can make any story with it. Watchmen is a more or less safe story using "created" characters in an experimental way, not much risk in that. The heart and soul of the comics industry is the superhero genre, for this reason I believe The Dark Knight Returns is superior, being an experiment with a mainstream character. Besides despite the brilliance of Alan Moore, Watchmen somehow initiated the concept of superheroes being dicks if they existed in real life, applied with disastrous effects in present mainstream comic books.
However, despite in my opinion having an anti-climactic ending, the beauty of Watchmen is found in magnificent techniques used in several respective chapters narrating the origins of the characters most especially of Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan, for this reason Watchmen is a must read.
Dark Knight returns is much better than this. I wasn't impressed with this at all.
I think your comparing apples to oranges here. The only thing these two books have in common is that it has superheroes in and it's published by DC. Other than these two are so far apart in themes, style and over all content. I won't say one is better than the other because I don't think what Miller and Moore were trying achieve here were similar other than the fact to show what the graphic novel form of story telling was capable of. I will say this about the Dark Knight Returns compare to Watchman was that Watchman is more a product of it's time than Dark Knight. Not say both are not timeless story telling. But The Watchman reflects more of the time it was written in mainly when the cold war was still going on. The Dark Knight, on the other hand reflects more of how comics were turning to a more grittier story telling style. This was around the time(maybe just before) when the Punisher became really popular for Marvel and other more urban heroes were being published.
you gotta be kidding me. it doesn't even make sense to compare the two.
thanks for the review of the watchmen
It saddens me to no end to no that yet another great form of art will be bastardized from what it is to sell more M&M's and Milk duds at America's movie theaters. For to long has the art form of film been just another place to twist great novels, childhood nostalgia, and rehashed 135 minute episodes of sitcoms, which were only probably made in the first place to sell Pepsi. And yes folks film is a form of art if we choose to treat it as it should be and not merely as product placement. To state what Moore has himself said (note I am not quoting the man, simply rehashing what he has basically stated before in some of the few interviews he has given to those that actually cared about what he had to say) the book, Watchmen is a graphic novel. And that’s it. To change that from it's form, changes the art entirely. Watchmen was groundbreaking and a masterpiece not only due to Moore's writing and Gibbons art style, but also because of the medium in which Moore chose to create it in. Putting into film form is only dumbing down the art, and making another movie to get more American's money. If you like Watchmen or want to see what it's about, pick up the book and read. I do understand that it is one thing to look at a piece of art in some new light and share that with others. Moore did this with his creation The League of Extraordinary Gentleman. In that he took characters from older novels such as Alan Quarterman and Captain Nemo, and put them in a different light. While doing so he stayed wonderfully true to the original creations. He didn't make Alan Quarterman a ass kicking 007, like the Film industry did with the movie adaptation of his work. This is the exact thing Moore wants to avoid from happening with any of his other work. This is why the man has personally asked his name be pulled off and not associated with any films made based on his work. Also, asking to not profit off them either. If anything this alone should say to anyone that truly enjoys his work for the art that it is, that you should not support his work being twisted into what it's not. I myself have called a boycott of the film in my local area and with the circle of people I associate with online. If you simply are to much of a film junkie to partake of this path then do everyone a favor and watch the damn thing for free online somewhere and don't give the Film Companies anymore money. Let's stop encouraging them for doing nothing more than twisting the things that have touched and enriched our lives for profit.
Why does a movie adaption instantly make something bastardized? Most readers understand that movies are never as good as books. And hey if a so so movie brings new readers to a great book. Thats a good thing. Because something has touched my life, does not mean someone can never view it differently or make a different version of it. Boycott it as you wish. I for one will see another view of it, and make my decision then.
Lighten up. If you don't want to see the movie or are afraid it's not going to be true to form just don't go see it.
I would have never known about Watchmen had it not been for the upcoming movie release. I don't think movie adaptations bastardize books, and the movie itself is likely to be considered by many a work of art as well. Whether or not it appeals to your or my sense of aesthetic pleasure is a question to be answered in March. I plan to read the graphic novel ( an art form I am new to) prior to seeing the movie. I think boycotting the movie is just plain silly, but certainly your prerogative.
The magnum opus of all graphic novel. Who says comic book can't be both a great read and complex? Hopefully the movie that is coming out soon will not do a disservice to it.
This was one of the most thought-provoking books I've ever read. Period. Not only does Watchmen make you rethink classic comic book conventions, but it touches on so many topics. Politics. The meaning of life. Power. The existence of evil.
This was an intense read. "Lower" forms of art can be as prophetic as "high" art. Watchmen proves this.
When was Watchmen low art?
I'm sorry that Noah feels so strongly about The Watchmen not being made into a movie. At this point I've stopped trying to tell other people what they should and should not do. It's their business. If I don't like it, I won't contribute, but I seldom find that soap boxes help a case. (Btw, when you're using "too" in a sentence where the word "also" would also fit, it should be a double "o.")
As for the novel, I think is raises some interesting questions about predestination and fate. Perhaps, even more poignantly about the human condition. Is Adrian Veidt right? Would it be worth it to kill so many people under the guise of creating world peace? And once he created it, would it last once the common enemy that united mankind was no longer a presence? Isn't our nature intrinsic? Won't we fight no matter what and was the destruction of so many lives worth the temporary reprise?
I thought this was an amazing read. I would have to agree with with kay-tea and lisa b. How Adrian intended to unite the world reminds me of 9-11. For a short time, the nation was united and outraged at the horrific loss of so many innocents. The difference between 9-11 and Watchmen is that it united us against Terrorism instead of an outside threat. The only way to unite the entire world is to create an outside force threatening the very exsistance of earth.
ok i know this is a graphic novel the movies rated r and i've heard plenty about Dr. Manhattan so just wondering if this book would be good for someone who's 13
No unless he's an avid reader and can comprehend the story. Plus there is a rape and adult level violence.
I'd say no. the gore is pretty intense, plus there are sex scenes which arent exactly approriate for a 13 year old. i agree with alicia w. if they have read the comic, then i'd say it is ok since they have an idea of what will happe, the movie is pretty close to the book, but if not,either have them read it first or just tell them to wait to their older.
Wait a few years. It's pretty intense stuff. You'll probably appreciate it more when you're older.
13? No. Sorry, but I'm almost sixteen and I felt like I shouldn't be reading it at some points. Do not see the movie either, unless you have read and understand the book, you're parents have looked over it, and they are willing to go with you. This is not a book to be taken lightly. It's complex, graphic, and adult. Dr. Manhattan isn't so much the problem. It's more every other character in the book.
I read this book already and I'm 13 and loved it so if he can handle it then I'd say go for it.
Hard to say. If you have been reading comics for awhile, especially superhero -type ones, then you might get into it. it will probably seem kinda boring, tho, i would guess, to you.
Call me a heretic... Feel better. Good. Brace yourself...
I know that I'll probably never work in this town again, but frankly, I'm really not feeling this book. Yes, it's a graphic novel that is probably a cut above the rest. Yes, it was good enough to be adapted (rather faithfully) into a screenplay and movie. I'll stipulate that. But I have to say that when I read the hype comparing this book to "serious literature," I'm left scratching my head. As an English major with a BA in English, I'm not getting the comparisons. These comic book "heroes" are not anything like Twist, or Copperfield, or Marner, or Eyre. In my opinion, they cannot possibly rise to anything other than caricatures of some of the worst ideas that mankind has ever brought to the table.
Comedy as hero. Nuclear Technology as hero. Under Cover of Darkness (or the Hidden Stain) as hero. Interesting ideas, these, but too plain and simple to ever rise to the complexity of real protagonist in all its fleshed-out three-dimensional glory.
I'm not quite through with this book, yet, so it might be unfair of me to lob these criticisms so early in the game. That said, I'm not convinced that I won't choose to put down this book in favor of simply watching the animated comic series available for download online. After all, it appears to be lifted directly from the pages of the book itself; a sort of ultimate audiobook with moving pictures.
Is it worthy of the hype? Not in my opinion, though I am merely one swimming against the current of the faithful. So take it for what it's worth.
i am reading this book, and it took me a while to actually get into it. does anyone else have a problem with getting into the book? i like the story line and all but some things seem very confusing.
It is not a conventional book if that is what you were expecting. At the same time, I sometimes think Moore convoluted some sections without having a genuine reason to do so. Just to make it what it is. I like it but not as much as it was hyped to be.
The dark tone and ending question reminded me of a A Clockwork Orange. Orange posed the question Is it better to choose to be bad than to be forced to be good. Watchmen asks If people should be forced to be good (or at least less warlike) no matter the price.
It was an interesting read. A good presentation of complex material. I have to applaud the movie makers for being so faithful to the book.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm too young to fully understand this book. It was just too weird for me. But it was kinda good. I kinda liked it. I heard the movie is not like the book at all and that the movie's bad.
The movie is a lot like the book, but they made several instances much more gory. The book is strange, that's true, but it's also very complicated. The psychology of the characters is astounding. There are a lot of them too, so that can get confusing also. The book could also be too mature for you to understand, that's also true.
The amazing thing about Watchmen is the fact that you can read it over and over again and still get a new impression from the characters.
The movie isnt as complicated as the book but I wasent disapointed. It cant be easy making a Watchmen movie. I dont think the movie is that bad, it made me want to read the book again and that cant be bad.
This book took a while to get through, because every chapter or so I'd have to just stop and think. I don't think I've ever read such a thought-provoking book, and being an English major I've read quite a few books. It's a dark view of humanity, but I think sometimes people do need to understand that life isn't all sunshine and roses. It seemed weird in the beginning, but after getting used to the tone I really started liking it. I'd recommend it to anyone 13 and older.
I read parts of it and all I got from it was that RORSHACH IS AWSOME!!!
yea he rules but i like Manhatten too
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im with speechless, it did at the beginning feel weird to keep reading but once i got through a couple chapters i started to really enjoy it and started to not have to stop and think and go back i just understood what rorschach would be doing this and that. Its much better than the movie, but i think the movie got a lot of people to read the actual book itself which is great. great book, ok movie.