It fit, but i was trying to channel to Roland in my mind "STOP! STOP! Enough with doors". I like how he progressed in his journey after passing through, but I think the point of the book is that he could have made a sacrifce. He could have given up the Dark Tower for his friends and lived happily. But, the Roland we met couldn't do that yet. Maybe next time...
I thought the ending was good, but I guess I wanted more. I have been reading the series for like ten years!!! The King books have made such a huge impact on me over the years. It's unbelievable how he was able to link all of his stories to the Gunslinger.
I can see him doing the quest over and over again where things that went wrong in previous incarnations go right in the final one. He keeps the horn, Susan lives as does his son.
That's how I picture it.
I hated Roland the first time he sacrificed Jake. I barely forgave him when Jake was able to return.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww now I'm sad for oy.
I too think the ending was perfect. I mean, how else are you going to do it? Have Roland find God or whathaveyou at the top of the tower, fix the world, and make everything be hunky dory? I like the idea of his continually repeating the cycle of his adventure because King clearly indicates that he makes a little more progress each time he goes round the wheel (i.e the Horn). He's obviously been going in this time loop for quite awhile, which is sort of hinted at throughout the book by his aged, weathered, cracked appearance that suggests he's much older than the 40 or so years that he would be in a normal time stream (sans the Man in Black holding him in time for several centuries during their talk at the end of book 1).
He's an ageless hero, and it's appropriate that only he could make the final trip to the steps of the Tower. After all, Jake, Oy, Eddie, and Susanna are not of his world nor are they part of the initial quest. Remember, they come from alternate realities that, although close to the true center of existence which is Roland's world, are still only shadows of the original quartet of gunslingers.
Something else I truly loved about the ending is that it allowed the story NOT to end. For those of us who have been reading it for years, even though we desperately sought finality, the quest was bittersweet--I don't really think I ever wanted it to end. And now it doesn't have to. And now the things that I hated--the deaths of Roland's ka-tet members, the death of Susan Delgado--maybe these things don't have to happen, after all.
I didn't mind the ending ending. But I hated the whole rest of the book. In fact I hold an intense disdain in my heart for books 5-8 in this series because I felt down.
But the ending with ka being a wheel was good.
I honestly think that was the only way the book could have ended. Remember Ka is a wheel. You will always end up back where you started.
I know.. ten years was a long time to invest, and I'm not as happy with the last book as I was with the first, but at least he *finished* it.. I was worried that might not happen. Especially when he got hit by the van, I was petrified!!! Even though you can see how jaded he is in his post-van writing, the series finished up nicely, if not perfectly (the last two books seemed a lil rushed).
The Gunslinger was his very first novel.. so I think it's natural that so many of his books are linked to the DT series. It's been in his head forever.
Sometimes the ending boggles my mind. Does Roland pull the same people out of time to become his katet? If so, how could the other's live "happily ever after" (well not happily ever after - but there was happiness). Wouldn't their other world selves get pulled out of history and therefore change those character's "endings". Does Roland pull out different people each time because of his own progression through the journey (at the "end" of book 7 we do see he has the horn. So maybe Eddie isn't needed to show Roland friendship?).
Ah, there goes my headache again!
ARGH! ARGH! ARGH! Yes, I was one of those upset people. Yes, I know it's supposed to be about the 'journey' but thaaaaat's craaaaap! It reminded me of those "change the ending" books. If you want Roland to become part of the tower, turn to page 34. If you want Roland to be killed by the Crimson King, turn to page 57. If you want.... Oh, and you KILL OY?! Yeah, I'm hot. I'd always envisioned meeting King one day, and asking loads of questions about his books and writing...now that mental scenario has changed to me kicking him in the shins and yelling, "Oy?! You had to kill Oy too?" The only thing that did make me happy was that Susannah got to live.
alright, alright, I admit it is a good ending if one considers ka. I still don't have to like it though.
I was positively livid with the ending! I feel slightly let down after all the hoopla.
It fits. I don't like it - but isn't that the point?
It was a nice ending I think, Roland can finally fix all the stuff that he messed up in the past...
Oh, and, am I the only that was disappointed that Susannah lived? He let Oy, Jake, and Eddie die; all great characters; and let that sorry excuse for a character live?
I thought it was extremely thought-provoking, it kind of makes you look at your own life, at all the things you invest your time/energy in...it emphasizes the importance of taking time to enjoy every day, instead of pushing through always in pursuit of the next big thing without really stopping to appreciate your experiences as they happen.
First, it sounds like everyone loved Oy as much as I did.
I thought this ending fit well with the whole notion of a 'circle'. I think someone mentioned that below. I was only slightly disappointed because I had been reading the series for so long -- about 2 1/2 years.
All in all, I loved the series, but I still want to shake King for killing Oy.
I think it was a great ending. It follwed Robert Browning's ending pretty well (or at least as well as you could do with the poem) and still gave a hint that maybe with the Horn of Eld things could be different.
I thought the ending was just as it should be. Circle of life, Sisyphean struggles and all that you know;)
Tell us how you really feel about her =D
Technically, they all lived in the other-world, right? So none of them really died. Susannah seemed to be the only one who had a bit of sense, Jake and Eddie would have followed Roland all the way to the end. However, she was ready to cut and run - she seemed to have an inner sense about the Tower and wanted nothing to do with it.
Woman's intitution and all...
Now if only Roland had followed her lead, he wouldn't have had to start over and he would have been reunited with Eddie!
I hated Susannah. This is my absolute favorite work of fiction, PERIOD, and I hated her. With a passion.
I haven't read everyone else's answers because I didn't finish the book. I stopped where Stephen King asked me to. I had been reading the series for so long that I came to trust King, to trust his storytelling. When he said, "Hey, this was always about Roland GETTING here, not finding out WHAT was here," I agreed. I closed the book right then and just sat for a while taking it all in. I plan on reading the series a number of times in my life but I already know I will probably never read the final part. I may very well die not knowing what is in the Tower. ...and I'm okay with that.
I don't want to sound over the top here, but I kind of decided to base my life religion/philosophy around the search for the tower (check out my homepage blurb). I think I like the idea of reincarnation and betterment, and that's basically what Roland is doing. So, I love the ending. And it is kind of an excuse to pick up book 1 after book 7 is finished...
Wow, I am thoroughly impressed. I ignored his advice with a vengeance. I *had* to see, after so many years of reading the series. I can't believe anybody COULD ignore his advice, and for that, I salute you, sir.
Also, I love lemon bars. But only if they're very lemony and not too sweet.
Yes, chin-fan, I agree. Besides, getting into the series--you had to know most of them would probably die, lol. But not permanently, which is the best part of the series--it just keeps going.
Was the ending apropos?
I thought it was. It fit the cycle of ka very well. But I know it upset a lot of people. What are your thoughts?
I loved Roland, I hated Roland . . . does that make any sense? Shouldn't he be eternally damned to repeat this over and over until he gets it right? How many chances did he get along the way only to choose sacrifice each time for the precious tower? You'll learn eventually Roland . . . I think the ending was just as it should be!
The ending was perfect. Really makes you wonder if it worked out the same way with the horn or not.
I recently read the first of the Darktower series. I loved it! The writing was superb, but I must admit that the anti-climactic conclusion really left me hanging. I am fixing to read the second in the series. I hope this is better. Any comments?
I've always thought this was the best installment in the Dark Tower series. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
I finished book two-The Drawing of the Three. WOW! This was an exciting glimpse into a fantastical realm that left me hungry for more. I can't wait to start the third installment.
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I finally finished this the other day. I guess I'm angry/disappointed that Roland has repeated this journey many times. It also does seem fitting, as he has a lesson to learn. Here's hoping that the horn helps him make this time the last time.
My problem with this book isn't the ending (which a lot of people tend to get hung up on) but the way King gets you there. I can't tell if the guy just chickened out when he got to the end or what but there are several reasons this book fails to bring the series to a meritorious ending.
Just a small list of examples:
There are three climactic battles that are telegraphed in the series involving Flagg, Mordred, and the Crimson King. In each case, these battles turn out to be non-events. After evading Roland for the entire series and playing a major part in completely destroying his life, Flagg meets his end (in a rather boring fashion) at the hands of a second rate character insertion. This character insertion (Mordred) had spent the last several volumes being built up as the Anti-Roland; basically the only true threat that could contend with him. Except not so much. Viewed from the 10,000 foot level, the only reason he really exists is to kill Oy so that the author can satisfy some preconceived notion that Roland has to get to the tower without his ka-tet. This is particularly obnoxious because Mordred dispatched Flagg so easily, who in turn spent the whole series making Roland look like a tool every time he got close to him. The ease at which Roland dispatches Mordred is completely incongruous.
Finally there is the Crimson King himself. King (Stephen that is) has literally spent his whole career building up the Crimson King as the penultimate evil. This is the demon entity who has literally orchestrated the unimaginable effort of bringing an end to all existence and he has done so across multiple parallel universes. His reach extends throughout all the various layers of the Multiverse.
So naturally, the best he can do when Roland finally shows up with his own Hippy version of Bob Ross, the Last Second Walking Deus Ex Machina, the best he can manage is to squeal like an idiot and throw smart grenades (which Roland easily shoots out of the air between bored farts and abbreviated rounds of I Spy). He then falls prey to Bob Ross' eraser while he's in the unfortunate process of removing some happy little trees.
Seriously? That's the best story telling Stephen King can manage for his magnum opus? His ultimate antagonist is erased out of existence.
The book is filled with this kind of stuff. King makes the point over and over again in a multitude of sources that he never really plans out how his stories are going to go, that they basically just come from nowhere. Well, it was never more apparent than in this book. It's one pointless, meandering mess from start to finish.
On top of all that, the guy takes a brief rest to insult his readers right before finishing the whole tragedy off (about the point where he compares people who wish to read through to the end to folks who are only interested in the final pathetic squirt of sex rather than the enjoyable journey to the end). That's just George Lucas levels of arrogance. In fact, the guy went Lucas all over this book. The only saving grace is that Oy didn't start talking like a stoned, semi-retarded Jamaican.
I'm hoping someone here who is familiar with this book can help me to recover a quote from it. I read it when it first came out, and don't have a copy, but there was a paragraph that meant a lot to me and I expect stood out to some of you: Basically, King wrote that everytime we say goodbye to someone we love, there is a part of our heart that fears we will never see them again, some terrible accident will take them away, and we have been luckier than we deserved to know them even this long. Could someone please post the quote? I remember it being a somewhat sad but poignant statement on appreciating those we love, and letting them know before too late. Thank you.