nil:this faulkners youghest read. you did better than me, the first time i read it, i never figured out what was going on. try go down moses or light in august
It took me a long time to finish it because I didn't find the plot, storry or whatever that catchy...but Faulkner's writing style is very interesting indeed, I must agree with Ina on that one ;)
It is so difficult to understand, i read it carefully , and off course its criticism, but i couldn't get its meaning , is there any body who can tell me about the real meaning of this Book ?!
I'm not sure that is such a simple question. One of the interesting themes in the book (maybe that's what you mean by "meaning"?) is incest. Every brother of Caddy (the first Caddy) wants to bang her. In fact, the only "love" in this book is in the form of incestuous love for Caddy. Why is that?
One possible answer is that Faulkner wanted to explore how "all love is incest". That is to say, people like marrying people who remind them of their mothers or fathers (or sisters). I like girls who wear perfume that reminds me of my mom's cooking. Is this a bad thing? Faulkner believes that it is.
But why? Well, for one thing, having a love affair with someone who looks like your mom is a very immature thing to do. It shows you prefer the old and familiar to the new and exciting. It means you can't deal with people who are different, who are the Other. This dealing with people's Other, people's essential weirdness and different-ness, is the way in which you acquire experience and discovers your values. Now, let's take this insight back into the book.
Why does Quentin commit suicide? Well, he wants to be a Southern Gentleman. He follows the old values of his forefathers, which say that Caddy has to remain a virgin until marriage or else she's a slut. Quentin tries to redeem Caddy the "usual" way, through violence, but that doesn't work because Quentin is a bit of a girly man. He also doesn't understand that old fashioned values worked for old fashioned people living in old fashioned times. Old values are irrelevant. They have to be reinterpreted in order to work. But Quentin can't do this, and doesn't know how. He can only try to rebel against old values (when he futilely breaks the watch) in rather stupid ways, like by committing suicide.
Quentin doesn't know how to reinterpret old values and figure out what he believes in because he has no experience. "Experience" in this case means dealing with the Other, with weirdness. He doesn't really know who he is. If he thought for one second about this, he would realize he is little more than a sex-starved emo kid who's parents spoiled him rotten and sent him off to Harvard. At this point, he would shape up, man up, and stop being such a self-destructive pussy.
Do you sometimes feel like you don't know what to believe in? That your parents are full of shit, and yet, you don't know how you could replace their ideas with something better? Well, Faulkner says, there is a way.
Confront the Other. Actively seek it. Talk to the weird kid with piercings. Listen to some fucked up music (Mozart, for example). Get to know someone from a different culture. Read the strangest book ever written (Sound and the Fury is a good start here). You will find stuff you don't like, and that's fine, you don't need to take that with you. Take what you do like.
Now you have a whole list of stuff you like. Stuff you believe in. Now is the time to figure out your role. Who are you?
Dilsey, the survivor, has done this. She has confronted white people, and understands them better than they do themselves. She takes care of them. Through confronting the Other, she has found her role in the world, as well as in her society. Witness her going to Church. Everyone at the congregation knows their role. That's why it goes off without a hitch. Why it reaches such transcendence.
But wait! You ask. Quentin Compson knows his role! It's that of the Southern Gentleman, who avenges wrongs and protects womanly virtue. Okay, that works. But... Quentin didn't find this role for himself. It was given to him by his ancestors. In other words... Quentin cheated. Like cheating on a test, he refused to do the really hard work of finding out who you are and decided to copy some answers from the past. See how well that turned out?
The thing is that your role, and identity, is comprised of past, present and future decisions. Of these, the past is the *least* important. How much does Dilsey think of the past? Why not at all. She is very much focused on the present, and mentions the future now and again.
Thus, the work of constructing your identity never stops. Because your external world is always changing, you always need to change as well. So your identity is not a stable thing, nor should it be. You should always be adding, taking away, and amending as necessary. Your identity is rendered in real-time, it's not a photograph or even a projection. If your identity ever becomes static, then it, like all perfectly static things, will die.
So this is a "meaning" behind Faulkner. It is Faulkner as self-help text. Or, to put it more bluntly, Faulkner essentially describes a few worst-case scenarios (incestuous lust, soul-sucking greed, suicidal despair) and then shows us how they came about, hinting at what we can do to avoid them, as well as problems like them.
I hope that wasn't too wordy
Master of Obscurity in Literature !
i love this book...the way of making a part told by Bengy(a mental retarded character) is very original and confusing ...but i still love it..iread it 2years ago..i want to re-read again
I have recently started a group that plans to discuss this novel as well other prominent works of fiction:
Best English-Language Fiction of the Twentieth Century
A new group centered on a composite list of the best English-language fiction of the twentieth century. Please give it a look, join up and invite your friends!
خصوصیت تکنیکی برجستهٔ خشم و هیاهو استفاده از چهار نگاه مختلف در روایت فروپاشی خانوادهٔ کامپسون است. از ذهن ناتوان بنجی به ذهن وسواسی کونتین و سپس حرکت به ذهن متفاوت و یا بیاندازه وسواسی جیسون و در آخر نیز به سوی دنیای عینی دیلسی. به این ترتیب حرکت خواننده را در این رمان، حرکتی از سادهلوحی و معصومیت به سوی روشنگری فزاینده مییابیم.
Even for required reading in my 11th year of school, this was fabulous. Yes, Benji and Quentin's parts are extremely difficult to get through, but there are websites that can help you parse out the text. Benji has no sense of time, so he goes back and forth between the memories in his mind.
Did Caddy and Quenton really have incestual feelings for each other?
Yes and no. I think they were more in love with the ideas they both represented.
Quentin was obsessed with his father's nihilistic views of life. His whole foundation was based on that. Caddy (and her virginity) represented the one true meaningful thing in the world to him. So it's not so much that he had sexual feelings for her, but loved what she represented because it was the last thing on Earth holding him back from his eventual self-demise.
As for Caddy, Quentin and Benjy were the only two good things in her life. I think Quentin represented the archetype of what a good man is supposed to be, but for many reasons - her father's nihilism, her mother's constant guilt, Jason's cruelty - she felt she did not deserve anything good. She felt doomed. She viewed Quentin as a bastion for escape, one she felt she could ever really have.
So, no, not really. They were more in love with what each other represented.